skybase v2.0

[Burn]

I wouldn't consider them needing mana instead of lumber a plus. Troll/Gobo is better for sky base late game. Anyone see a disadvantage to gobo with 130g-ish at sky base?

Not enough space in base.
Heh, that rhymed.
-Burn

[pewpew410]

Definitely not enough if workers get nuked and you need to rebuild facts. This didn't seem to be a huge problem for me late game. I must say, never tried in an inhouse.

[narbtit]

I wouldn't consider them needing mana instead of lumber a plus. Troll/Gobo is better for sky base late game. Anyone see a disadvantage to gobo with 130g-ish at sky base?

your towers do 55 dmg, mine do 85
even assuming your workers dont get nuked the dps on dryad towers are just too op

[TimmyTheTauren]

Gob has dat op splash. I'd rather mini rush a dryad base than a gob base tbh.

[pewpew410]

splash/haste/evasion

[narbtit]

Gob has dat op splash. I'd rather mini rush a dryad base than a gob base tbh.

i focus your main with 85 dmg towers then your minis have to back off
also makes aoe heal less effective because the damage is all focused on your main, making the heals on your minis redundant (syph), and the the bounce heals from your minis less optimal were they to heal other minis

splash/haste/evasion

haste is what, 15%, 55*1.15 = 63.25, but attack speed has less of an effect because armor of fate subtracts a set damage
splash, meh, i target the main and then he has to retreat
you have 650 hp walls with evasion, i have 650 hp walls with a slow and thorns

[jew]

Gob has dat op splash. I'd rather mini rush a dryad base than a gob base tbh.

i focus your main with 85 dmg towers then your minis have to back off
also makes aoe heal less effective because the damage is all focused on your main, making the heals on your minis redundant (syph), and the the bounce heals from your minis less optimal were they to heal other minis

what the fuck? do you know anything about playing titan? answer = no because 99.999999999% of your games are builder.

why do minis have to back off if the main is focused? thats stupid.
i dont understand why bounce heal is any less effective. 1 bounce -> self, 2 bounce -> main, heals the same whether it it vs gob or dryad.

i.e. 7 walls, break 3-4, titan backs off, use minis to break another 1-2, titan 75-100% hp now with mini heals + wards, idgaf if you kill a couple minis but ill still break the base cuz all minis have full hp when they start breaking their own walls

+ micro = dont lose any minis
+ micro = you cant even rewall

gob splash hurts all minis and though any overfed titan with strong minis bounce heals will still break the base, harder than dryad.

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dryad is op, yes because fertilizer gives enormous mana and 30g is basically gg unless titan is super fed and you base somewhere where you can put 50 towers.

[narbtit]

I respectfully disagree good sir.

minis back off after main is focused or they die. Minis can't stand against a dryad base for more than 1s, you haven't played against a 50 tower dryad base or you wouldn't be bragging about how strong your minis are. I've literally never, EVER seen "minis" take out ANY walls on my base EVER. You severly underestimated dryads base. If gob was better I would be playing that.

Also, every tiem a titan suicides into my base with all his minis, my hunter becomes insanely strong and rapes anything that gets through the walls. I have a huge success rate in killnig suiciders into my base, it never works.

also lawl at your +micro, how fast can your ww your minis when each is being hit by 50 towers doing 85 dmg each? less than 1s apart is what.

[TimmyTheTauren]

narbtit, please don't talk about sieging a base with minis when you don't know how to.

Minis don't back off after main is focused. The main backs when he is low hp. Minis can stand a dyrad base for more than 1 seconds, guaranteed. I have played against a 50 dyrad base. You've never played a decent titan. I'm not saying dryad is a bad builder, she is op. I am saying I'd rather mini rush a dryad base than a gob. I'd rather solo main rush a gob base than dryad base. Different scenarios.

Again, you've never played a decent titan. Besides, your hunter is probably already dead from nukes considering you are probably failing trying to kill wards.

You can ww all your minis in a second if need be.

You keep going back to 85 damage towers. In your case, if you play someone good, you are dead before you make your base, your base is gone before you make it, or its gone before you get close to level 10 towers. They're not letting a dryad get 45 gold before the penalty anyway.

[narbtit]

i've pwned marked and black_vega with skybase so far

maybe you will be next?

[pewpew410]

Shots fired!

[jew]

minis back off after main is focused or they die. Minis can't stand against a dryad base for more than 1s, you haven't played against a 50 tower dryad base or you wouldn't be bragging about how strong your minis are. I've literally never, EVER seen "minis" take out ANY walls on my base EVER. You severly underestimated dryads base. If gob was better I would be playing that.

also lawl at your +micro, how fast can your ww your minis when each is being hit by 50 towers doing 85 dmg each? less than 1s apart is what.

1. i was one of the original dryad pickers when it first came out because i realized fertilizer is op - WAY better you began playing
2. ive already said it is OP, but NOT for any of the reasons you've given.
3. i was the original idg ih gob player as well, and it has gotten nerfed with lumber to the point that you cant overtower (over 30 towers) unless you have a wood feeder, which is why it is nowhere near effective now
4. each mini is being hit by 50 towers doing 85 damage all at once? you're hitting 5 minis all at once with 50 towers each? you have 250 towers? learn english
5. 85 damage is not pure damage, learn about armor (pierce + magic component)
6. i can micro my minis faster than 1s
7. i've crushed you many times in bottom left and euro
8. you're simply not credible because you've never played titan, are not a good titan and don't understand what titan requires.

/thread

[narbtit]

7. i've crushed you many times in bottom left and euro
/thread

yep when I ebed and you outfed me, now I only base with arc and fertilizer lets see how you do then, its only a matter of time till you get pwned

[jew]

why are you proud of being able to pick a builder and sit in a base for an hour? sure, eventually i'll random foss and have a tough time feeding and lose to an overpowered base location and a lack of building-intensive builders, no one has a 100% win rate. but i'm confident that i can win 9.5/10 times against you at the least.

however, i don't like playing with you in inhouses because you have low skill in virtually everything that actually requires constant movement/quick reaction times (wall-walking, denying, etc) and not just extreme caution.

again, you also don't even know how to play titan and there are a plethora of people better than you

[Burn]

And no-one has even explained how to mini-rush yet.

I'll give some tips. Mini-rushing is not hard to do, you just need a tiny bit of practise and actually know how.

I wrote this guide just for you: entgaming.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=19984

-Burn