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Re: Regarding Recent Hack

Postby Scriv » Sun Mar 12, 2017 3:56 pm

EdgeOfChaos wrote:I wonder who set up the bot to tell people that because ENT is hacked, they should come to play on their server instead (see announcement screenshot). Let's hear you defend that one.

Oh and this:
scriv wrote:on bnet, i told him the stealthbot campaign was step 1 of taking down ENT
and then bam, hacked the next day
hahaha


You can quit pretending, you know. Anyone who looks at it will know that you guys did it.


Maybe you don't understand the situation well, since you're mistaken about the bot's message. The message stated "Are you tired of ENT's bots being down? Come to war3.host for quality DotA/LTD games.

Did that mention the site got hacked or anything? No. Again, you're not well read on this, so you should probably not have input.

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Re: Regarding Recent Hack

Postby GriefCode » Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:01 pm

EdgeOfChaos wrote:I wonder who set up the bot to tell people that because ENT is hacked, they should come to play on their server instead (see announcement screenshot). Let's hear you defend that one.

Oh and this:
scriv wrote:on bnet, i told him the stealthbot campaign was step 1 of taking down ENT
and then bam, hacked the next day
hahaha


You can quit pretending, you know. Anyone who looks at it will know that you guys did it.


You may should know the fact that this cannot be taken as an evidence as no one except scriv and larz can know what they have said in the chat.
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Give me the proof you did not write that. Great, you can't. Now you can tell me how much the evidence of a personal conversation is worth? Nothing.
And once again the bot was only meant to offer people a place to play in the time ENT was down. If that is your evidence I can understand the recent moves within the ENT staff and why they started on war3host. Because this is not a discussion, it's just accusations without evidences...

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Re: Regarding Recent Hack

Postby ntc » Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:12 pm

its easy to quickly accuse because its the easiest thing to do.... jumping through hoops to get the real facts is what honorable people would do. But it look likes like ENT doesn't practice that. They quickly accuse war3.host and dota.vision first with no proof and go on pointing about a bot in their channel as their support of their accusation. WTF can a single bot can do inside a clan channel? your forum and system was compromised by a announcement bot?

Also did anyone clarify that the HACK had NOTHING to do with ENT outages for the past consecutive weeks? From what I can tell the hack was contained within 24 hours but wtf really happen with your bots going down for HOURS 3-4 times within a month? wait... you did say it was blizzards fault.. thank god other hosting networks didn't use that excuse.
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Re: Regarding Recent Hack

Postby CheW » Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:38 pm

I was confused seeing all the dota vision moderators here. Then I realized this single thread has more activity than their forums.
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Re: Regarding Recent Hack

Postby Scriv » Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:43 pm

CheW wrote:I was confused seeing all the dota vision moderators here. Then I realized this single thread has more activity than their forums.


More irrelevancy. Do you feel better now? Stay on topic.

EdgeOfChaos

Re: Regarding Recent Hack

Postby EdgeOfChaos » Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:45 pm

Scriv wrote:
EdgeOfChaos wrote:I wonder who set up the bot to tell people that because ENT is hacked, they should come to play on their server instead (see announcement screenshot). Let's hear you defend that one.

Oh and this:
scriv wrote:on bnet, i told him the stealthbot campaign was step 1 of taking down ENT
and then bam, hacked the next day
hahaha


You can quit pretending, you know. Anyone who looks at it will know that you guys did it.


Maybe you don't understand the situation well, since you're mistaken about the bot's message. The message stated "Are you tired of ENT's bots being down? Come to war3.host for quality DotA/LTD games.

Did that mention the site got hacked or anything? No. Again, you're not well read on this, so you should probably not have input.


I notice that you've stopped denying that you did it. Ent was down because it got hacked when the bot was active.

And that ms-paint edit was really bad.
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Re: Regarding Recent Hack

Postby HazarDous » Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:46 pm

You guys had the motive - take ENT down.
You guys had the technical knowledge to perform the hack in a very limited amount of time.
You guys had a step-by-step plan to achieve said motive:
Scriv wrote:12:36 PM
on bnet, i told him the stealthbot campaign was step 1 of taking down ENT

The plan was known and organized by the higher-ups of your community:
Scriv wrote:Hier à 13:28
Again, I was asked to, so I did that. Outside of that , I have no idea
HazarDous - Hier à 13:28
who asked you?
Scriv - Hier à 13:29
APO + Larz + Hyo + GriefCode
Mostly APO and Larz though


Less than 24 hours later, bam. Step 2 of the plan was accomplished - ENT was hacked.

Scriv was asked to post link to pornographic content prior to the hacking. The hack contained links to... pornographic content.

Perhaps you want to argue those are circumstantial evidence, fine by me. However, I highly doubt that this is just an unfortunate combination of coincidences for you.

Motive: check
Knowledge and capacity: check
Agenda/Plan: check
"Circumstantial" evidence 1: check
"Circumstantial" evidence 2: check

Those are the facts which lead to our conclusion. We presented them, and the community is free to think whatever they want of it.

Now, I'm getting a bit tired of having to deal with your shit. Hack happened, our conclusion was stated, your defence was stated, now let's move on and allow the community to make their mind up. However, if there is something aRt)Y and I definitely realized, it is that we need a Webmaster. Thanks for that.

Scriv

Re: Regarding Recent Hack

Postby Scriv » Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:50 pm

You made everyone's mind up by posting an announcement about how you figured it all out. The truth is that you didn't and you have no clue. Congratulations.

I was trying to work with you guys. Whoever did it to you probably had good reason because you're all arrogant pricks. I hope it continues to happen to you.

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Re: Regarding Recent Hack

Postby Scriv » Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:56 pm

EdgeOfChaos wrote:
Scriv wrote:
EdgeOfChaos wrote:I wonder who set up the bot to tell people that because ENT is hacked, they should come to play on their server instead (see announcement screenshot). Let's hear you defend that one.

Oh and this:


You can quit pretending, you know. Anyone who looks at it will know that you guys did it.


Maybe you don't understand the situation well, since you're mistaken about the bot's message. The message stated "Are you tired of ENT's bots being down? Come to war3.host for quality DotA/LTD games.

Did that mention the site got hacked or anything? No. Again, you're not well read on this, so you should probably not have input.


I notice that you've stopped denying that you did it. Ent was down because it got hacked when the bot was active.

And that ms-paint edit was really bad.


You clearly have no idea what's going on.

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Re: Regarding Recent Hack

Postby Hatedmaru » Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:58 pm

@Scriv Nice to see you tossing me into the entire story, when you have 0 posts about me talking about the bot, or the hack itself - Yes i was aware of your stealth bot, but to put me inside the entire story, and actually claiming i had anything involved ... nice try kiddo.

but go ahead Mister Scriv (aka Mogul) - If you wanted to know who Scriv is, It's Mogul fyi.

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Re: Regarding Recent Hack

Postby ntc » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:10 pm

scriv wrote:on bnet, i told him the stealthbot campaign was step 1 of taking down ENT


How do you define "taking down ENT" ? is hacking the only way to do that? if so, then your mind is a bit too narrow. The first thing that one may assume may be hacking but if you want to be thorough because your a leading community and people would expect no less from you. You would dig deeper instead of just locking in on your first assumption.

scriv wrote:Hier à 13:28
Again, I was asked to, so I did that. Outside of that , I have no idea
HazarDous - Hier à 13:28
who asked you?
Scriv - Hier à 13:29
APO + Larz + Hyo + GriefCode
Mostly APO and Larz though


You may have your info twisted here but again you enjoy believing what your assume first because that's the easiest thing to do. What Scriv said above was a plan to setup the announcement bot to let the players know War3 is hosting the same map since ENT didn't bother informing their users of ANYTHING for hours. But as I said if the perfectly executed orchestration of an announcement bot was able to take down ENT... I think you guys have more to worry about than wasting your precious time on this post.

Hazardous wrote: However, if there is something aRt)Y and I definitely realized, it is that we need a Webmaster. Thanks for that.


Glad you realized you need some "real" technical people to run your community, but I also hope you can realize that your forum can really use a new makeover too.

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Re: Regarding Recent Hack

Postby CryWolf » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:11 pm

EdgeOfChaos wrote:I wonder who set up the bot to tell people that because ENT is hacked, they should come to play on their server instead (see announcement screenshot). Let's hear you defend that one.

Oh and this:
scriv wrote:on bnet, i told him the stealthbot campaign was step 1 of taking down ENT
and then bam, hacked the next day
hahaha


You can quit pretending, you know. Anyone who looks at it will know that you guys did it.

Check my previous post.

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Re: Regarding Recent Hack

Postby HazarDous » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:14 pm

Will keep your advice in mind.

I think you've run out of pertinent argument as this discussion is starting to circle. As I said, case was made, community can believe whatever they want. Now we're moving on though.

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