Is it bannable to refuse to kick laggers?

[MIKEJONES]

So you tell me you have banned him for other games but not for this, it really dosent matter if is the same day or not. Bro you are just amazing. How did you get the admin role?

Our ban system doesn’t allow combining penalties for separate incidents, so we can only issue one ban at a time. After reviewing the case, I extended Pegase’s ban to 7 days for the more severe offense, as outlined in the linked report. Normally, I wouldn’t dive into such detail, but if you’re willing to put the past behind, trust that reporting issues is better than taking matters into your own hands going forward, and work with us, we can lift your ban..

What you think?

[GuessWhosBack]

So you tell me you have banned him for other games but not for this, it really dosent matter if is the same day or not. Bro you are just amazing. How did you get the admin role?

Our ban system doesn’t allow combining penalties for separate incidents, so we can only issue one ban at a time. After reviewing the case, I extended Pegase’s ban to 7 days for the more severe offense, as outlined in the linked report. Normally, I wouldn’t dive into such detail, but if you’re willing to put the past behind, trust that reporting issues is better than taking matters into your own hands going forward, and work with us, we can lift your ban..

What you think?

Well idk, what it will be next? A ban for not vk a feeder, or a ban for not playing as the willing of french guy? Or maybe a ban for picking a carry hero in a team full of carryes?
You guys just invent rules over night and i'm really tired of this charade.

[MIKEJONES]

If we all strive to treat each other respectfully, avoid actions we wouldn't want done to us, and use a bit of common sense, admins would have no grounds to accuse anyone of misconduct unless its contradicting to the Guide and Rules below.

DotA Gameplay Expectations & Rule Enforcement Guide
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=148678

ENT DotA Rules
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=146716

If you witness wrongdoing, misconduct or feel that you became a victim of such, feel free to find me on discord or PM me directly.

We have a deal?

[EdteOfChaos2]

Oh hey remember this blast from the past: viewtopic.php?f=43&t=141466

Good to see that no one gives a damn to fix the same problem that's been constantly happening on the server for the last 6 years, and that Haunt's refusal to acknowledge them is STILL causing problems. I just love games where the lag screen pops up every 2 seconds and makes it unplayable. Maybe now that someone other than myself is bringing it up, something will actually be done about it.

Maybe it does auto-drop after 600 seconds, I'm not sure, but that's a stupidly long time anyways. Either just max out the synclimit so the lagger is the only one seeing the lag screen, or set some reasonable lag limit.

I feel like "kicking the person making the game unplayable" is a completely reasonable thing to expect people to do. No one wants to play a game when it's like that and I just can't understand why people don't kick. People should acknowledge their mistakes (not kicking to fix the game was a mistake, and banning ingame for bad forum behavior was a mistake), fix the bot, and move on from this.

[GuessWhosBack]

No Mike, we dont have a deal. You basically ask me to obey to any admin decision no matter that decision is good or bad.
You also ask for common sense, but any of admins dont want to hear the oppinion of any player here, they only have to listen and offen appologize for their "sins". Sry but i`m not that kind of person, i do have dignity. I explained ingame and even here, but like i said you dont want to listen the other oppinions and thoughs.
I admit that i flame alot, but are plenty games when i dont say any word, if i`m provoked is the end ( see my chat with caffrey for example), i also have very few games when i actually ruin, despite what french guy and astros said ( and let me tell that bad games =/= ruining games, at least in my case).
The authority of admins is what i dont like here. And i think i will stop here, because i can write a book of everthing i`ve seen on ent in all these years.

[MIKEJONES]

No Mike, we dont have a deal. You basically ask me to obey to any admin decision no matter that decision is good or bad.
You also ask for common sense, but any of admins dont want to hear the oppinion of any player here, they only have to listen and offen appologize for their "sins". Sry but i`m not that kind of person, i do have dignity. I explained ingame and even here, but like i said you dont want to listen the other oppinions and thoughs.
I admit that i flame alot, but are plenty games when i dont say any word, if i`m provoked is the end ( see my chat with caffrey for example), i also have very few games when i actually ruin, despite what french guy and astros said ( and let me tell that bad games =/= ruining games, at least in my case).
The authority of admins is what i dont like here. And i think i will stop here, because i can write a book of everthing i`ve seen on ent in all these years.

So, expecting you to use common sense and treat others the way you would like to be treated is asking you to bend a knee or obey an order? You really think it’s fair to everyone else in the game to not VK someone trapped in a lag cycle, stalling the game from moving forward or finishing? Do I need to ask some of those players in game to come here and give their side of the story so you can see how they felt of your action or inaction?

Summoning - @Frank @master_pianos @MR_Nimbuss - Feel free to share your side of the story.

You don't want to take any responsibility or ownership of holding the game up for no apparent reason other than making sure Haliente is autobanned for 1-2 hours. You may have history with previous admins or current admins but I have no history with you and I can see why you've had negative experience with them judging by how entitled you feel. The reason why I am even entertaining this post is because I believe your misstep here is minor and more of a misunderstanding of what's within your rights and what's against common sense. However, your attitude and stubbornness is beyond repairable.

Goodluck.

[master_pianos]

Mike - Keep this guy banned. This is about ego for him. I don't understand what he's so hung up on as you aren't even asking for much, just some common sense. I was in the the game and the lag was unbearable to the point where I was about to just exit out.

Infero/Guesswhosback - This isn't some country where you're afforded some sort of bill of rights because you pay taxes. Do you pay for this server or pay the admins for all the work they put in here? If the answer is no, stop acting so entitled to whatever "freedoms" you think you deserve because you don't. If you don't like it, simply just leave. You don't have to like all the admins (I surely don't) but I am thankful to the folks that keep ENT running even if it's partially a zoo most the time.

[Frank]

Dude is mad at me bcuz i used the -kickafk command. Let me tell you that a player coming back as a level 1 hero 5+minutes into the game is just as game ruining as the constant lag cycle u held us hostage in. Your whole issue here is long lobby wait times and you don't know who to blame about it. Its ok join Jazzy's victim club. Membership is still open. It would be unthinkable that maybe the old age of the game has something to do with the decline in the player pool. NO NO it has to be the admins banning the blatant game ruiners. There was a time when there was 0 moderation happening here post the ENT announcement. Let me tell you from first hand experience those games involved TA crashers, PL crashers, Ember spirit crashers to cheese the enemy team out of a win. Those weren't the only bugs being abused, just the most glaring ones. So you would prefer a large quantity of shitty and i mean shitty games vs fewer quality ones

[GuessWhosBack]

Mike summon pegase aswel and ask to explain himself why he didnt vk since i have only 50% of fault.

[GuessWhosBack]

Btw i'm glad to see that all these players who came here act like sheeps, and dont even realize that i wasnt the only one who didnt vk. Big applause!

[h3rmit]

As I've previously told you @unitil is probably the one person that can make any changes to the bots.

Oh hey remember this blast from the past: viewtopic.php?f=43&t=141466

Good to see that no one gives a damn to fix the same problem that's been constantly happening on the server for the last 6 years, and that Haunt's refusal to acknowledge them is STILL causing problems. I just love games where the lag screen pops up every 2 seconds and makes it unplayable. Maybe now that someone other than myself is bringing it up, something will actually be done about it.

Maybe it does auto-drop after 600 seconds, I'm not sure, but that's a stupidly long time anyways. Either just max out the synclimit so the lagger is the only one seeing the lag screen, or set some reasonable lag limit.

Since this is no longer relevant to the current topic, I've opened a new thread:
Lag screen and reconnection, revisited

[Frank]

i wasnt the only one who didnt vk

The fact that you think this somehow exonerates you is very worrying... for you. Im sorry I thought you were capable of some common sense, It seems you are just like I predicted.. another jazzy clone

[GuessWhosBack]

i wasnt the only one who didnt vk

The fact that you think this somehow exonerates you is very worrying... for you. Im sorry I thought you were capable of some common sense, It seems you are just like I predicted.. another jazzy clone

Frank, simple question, do you need full votes to kick someone in game? Yes or no.

[Frank]

Feels like im being punked here in ENT. How does the answer to that question help your case?

[MIKEJONES]

i wasnt the only one who didnt vk

The fact that you think this somehow exonerates you is very worrying... for you. Im sorry I thought you were capable of some common sense, It seems you are just like I predicted.. another jazzy clone

Frank, simple question, do you need full votes to kick someone in game? Yes or no.

Pegase is on the verge of a permanent ban. His rap sheet on ENT is longer than those endless CVS receipts you get at the checkout. You, on the other hand, aren’t nearly as much of a troublemaker...or so we thought. You have at least 3-4 players here who are speaking in your favor (myself included), and yet you don’t seem to appreciate or reciprocate. Its pretty sad...