Aghanism on Sky

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Re: Aghanism on Sky

Postby Zeratul » Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:57 am

Sylvanas wrote:Getting lothars on drow or sniper can only be repaid by sacrificing your computer to the unholy flames of Satan and committing seppuku at midnight during a full moon.


Seppuku dis -> https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=10435136 / https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=10421014 ...

And biggest prize goes to this - https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=10420526 (Yes, it is you building lothars on sniper .. seppuku yourself, thanks)

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Re: Aghanism on Sky

Postby Sylvanas » Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:01 am

Zeratul wrote:Seppuku dis -> https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=10435136 / https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=10421014 ...

And biggest prize goes to this - https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=10420526 (Yes, it is you building lothars on sniper .. seppuku yourself, thanks)

Was I not being sarcastic enough? I thought I went ridiculously overboard with it?

Also, just wondering, how could you tell I went lothars in that sniper game? It doesn't appear in the game link and I doubt you checked the actual replays one by one.

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Re: Aghanism on Sky

Postby Zeratul » Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:07 am

http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 420526.w3g

Shows lothars - simple =D Sniper game, lost -> radar went cuckoo and i bet lothars there (check replay link and voilaa there's the lothars =D)

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Re: Aghanism on Sky

Postby Sylvanas » Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:09 am

Zeratul wrote:http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/view_replay.php?file=10420526.w3g

Shows lothars - simple =D Sniper game, lost -> radar went cuckoo and i bet lothars there (check replay link and voilaa there's the lothars =D)

Ah right, I never check the replay download pages because a bunch of stuff gets glitched. The items are right though. Even though they're also so wrong in a way. I mean seriously, lothar's!? /monocle drop
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Re: Aghanism on Sky

Postby Zeratul » Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:13 am

Ah well, my apologies then =P i thought you were part of the anti-lothars movement ^^ (I wanted to link that guy that calls himself LotharsSoSad or w/e his name for the lulz, but i forgot his name so joke ruined xD)

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Re: Aghanism on Sky

Postby BeerLord » Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:30 am

Im scots. We draw and quarter. None of that wimpy dagger in the stomach then off with the head before you can say ow for us.

Never get involved in a landwar in asia. Probs add never get involved in a dota discussion with you two to that list of things one has no chance of winning...

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Re: Aghanism on Sky

Postby EdgeOfChaos » Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:23 am

Obviously I was being over the top when I said to uninstall.

It's not just sniper and trax. I see too many 600 hp squishy heroes buying lothars when facing a bara or other supergankers. Great, now you're still squishy but it costs 180 gold to kill you. I especially love it when they get lothars to counter a void. If you make it after your core and use it to position in fights, idc, go ahead. But if you really rush lothars after plain boots or something, it's useless.

The attack speed and damage on lothars are not that good, it should only be a minor factor in whether or not to get it. The point of the item is the invis. Slark is the only hero I regularly buy it on, and that's only because of how ridiculously well it synergizes with him. Even good players can't do anything about it besides gem. For any other hero besides slark: lothars is NOT an escape item.

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Re: Aghanism on Sky

Postby not2000elo » Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:32 pm

here is a prime example of a game I should have gone blink dagger, but chose to go lothars because I knew for a fact I was playing vs trash players (yes 2 were *high* elo but still trash imo)

https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=10436280


edit: btw I was the lc

edit #2 btw before we ended, I was 2-3 hitting them with more than 1200+ crits

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Re: Aghanism on Sky

Postby Burnt » Sat Mar 03, 2018 4:55 pm

not2000elo wrote:here is a prime example of a game I should have gone blink dagger, but chose to go lothars because I knew for a fact I was playing vs trash players (yes 2 were *high* elo but still trash imo)

https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=10436280


edit: btw I was the lc

edit #2 btw before we ended, I was 2-3 hitting them with more than 1200+ crits

Impressive. Wait do lothar or dagger make a difference tho when you are against 400 elo?
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Re: Aghanism on Sky

Postby Sylvanas » Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:40 pm

EdgeOfChaos wrote:It's not just sniper and trax. I see too many 600 hp squishy heroes buying lothars when facing a bara or other supergankers. Great, now you're still squishy but it costs 180 gold to kill you.

*90

Which quickly adds up since I'm gonna die 30 times, so joke's on you.

EdgeOfChaos wrote:The attack speed and damage on lothars are not that good, it should only be a minor factor in whether or not to get it. The point of the item is the invis. Slark is the only hero I regularly buy it on, and that's only because of how ridiculously well it synergizes with him. Even good players can't do anything about it besides gem. For any other hero besides slark: lothars is NOT an escape item.

They're not that high because it's a 2800 gold item. The invis also isn't infallible because it's still a 2800 item. Yet it doesn't take many successful escapes/ganks for the expense to be worth it. Of course, I know this is going to turn out to be completely false because it's happening in an hypothetical game which is 100% covered by enemy sentries 100% of the time, because absolutely everything went to shit because someone got a lothars, so the other team started shitting mountains of gold and instantly controlled the entire map, right?

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Re: Aghanism on Sky

Postby EdgeOfChaos » Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:02 pm

What I've found you need to counter Lothars is basically the same as I do every game already:
- Obs wards on each cliff (if they don't realize they are there, you will see the approach before invis)
- Sentry ward on each cliff to de-ward
- Carry dust, always.
- If it is still an issue, or there is an invis hero like Riki or Techies, buy a gem on the most survivalist hero.
Other than that, build smart items and stick together with the team, unless you're a hero who can afford not to.

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Re: Aghanism on Sky

Postby Brandon » Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:43 pm

its always nice to listen to low skilled morons talk about dota.
These monkeys have no clue what they talk about. and its the same people every time.

https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=10444877
aku-ake aka shinracorp?

going lothars and rushing divine buriza
Your skill level is so weak i dont know why you talk like your smart.

"this is the kindve noob I would smashed with tiny on smurf"
LOL
too bad this game i had to carry you. If i were against you youd be smashed.

"Veteran Skymage player here."
LOLL this is too funny.
also have you ever heard of bmail?

p.s dont reply to my post,
i cant waste any more my brain energy on these lowskilled apes.

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Re: Aghanism on Sky

Postby EdgeOfChaos » Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:43 am

Damn, this Brandon is salty as fuck!
Who hurt you?!

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Re: Aghanism on Sky

Postby Sylvanas » Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:36 am

Brandon wrote:its always nice to listen to low skilled morons talk about dota.
These monkeys have no clue what they talk about. and its the same people every time.

https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=10444877
aku-ake aka shinracorp?

going lothars and rushing divine buriza
Your skill level is so weak i dont know why you talk like your smart.

"this is the kindve noob I would smashed with tiny on smurf"
LOL
too bad this game i had to carry you. If i were against you youd be smashed.

"Veteran Skymage player here."
LOLL this is too funny.
also have you ever heard of bmail?

p.s dont reply to my post,
i cant waste any more my brain energy on these lowskilled apes.

I don't think you'll ever have to worry about wasting too much brain energy.

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Re: Aghanism on Sky

Postby not2000elo » Sun Mar 04, 2018 9:35 am

Burnt wrote:
not2000elo wrote:here is a prime example of a game I should have gone blink dagger, but chose to go lothars because I knew for a fact I was playing vs trash players (yes 2 were *high* elo but still trash imo)

https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=10436280


edit: btw I was the lc

edit #2 btw before we ended, I was 2-3 hitting them with more than 1200+ crits

Impressive. Wait do lothar or dagger make a difference tho when you are against 400 elo?


That's exactly what I said boss


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