Masterkiller 1v1

[Merex]

No. There isn't a single admin on ENT that holds any depth of "care" for what goes on in the dota subforum aside from legitimate forum violations which even then isn't taken to it's strictest just due to the ongoing theme of drama and shittalk.

Iirc I've dealt with a ban request on your "furion" before and from an admin aspect, there wasn't anything to suggest a ban on your "gameplay" however, naturally, it won't sit well with dota players as I'm sure lothar d5 furi isn't something a team would consider "valuable" but I'm not to decide that. If you are referring to one of our moderators Astros, you must clearly understand that when he enters this subforum and starts posting it's more in a casual-dota player aspect, same as myself. Unless, there's a pressing concern that's needed to be addressed.

Tbh, after having read all of this as a dota player - I'm in agreement with nitromon. Reference page 1 of "masterkiller aka furion:kd" -
LEARN to respect the game. LEARN to respect each other.
'course, it'll never happen but props to him for speaking up.

[Astros]

They aren't going to make special rules for your 1v1 match.

The do seem to dislike me, and wishing to get my gameplay banned. So they might consider.

Hey man, it's just friendly banter here until you issued the challenge. We're not going to ban you for losing and then still deciding to select Furion. No one "hates" you. They hate your strategy. It clearly doesn't work and you've played hundreds of games doing so with the majority of them leading to a terrible result.

Anyways, it would be nice if one of you guys would put this up on Twitch or let someone obs and that individual can livestream it there.

[UltraKill]

It clearly doesn't work and you've played hundreds of games doing so with the majority of them leading to a terrible result.

l o l

[Astros]

It clearly doesn't work and you've played hundreds of games doing so with the majority of them leading to a terrible result.

But how doesn't it work? Dagon 5 is 800 damage, with ethereal it becomes 1200. Plus ethereal adds about 400 damage itself. So thats 1600 here. Add refresher - thats 3200. Furi also can ulty twice which will add some damage aswell. Also with these items you get about 100+150 attack and pretty good attack speed. Yes this furi is not good for pushing lanes but I think its fine for killing. It's just that in the beginning - you can't kill a full hp hero with just dagon 1. But if I finish my build fast enough - its gg. And to finish it fast enough I do need to ks a little bit (I ks only about 10-25% of my kills, if you think otherwise - provide at least 1 replay of proof or don't open the trash mouth) in the beginning. I mean I can pick lina and do the same, its just that she doesn't have global tp.

https://entgaming.net/openstats/dota/?u=masterkiller

267 games and you're around 750 elo. And that's one of the many accounts that you have used to experiment on this strategy. Clearly, if it works, you should be doing far better than what it shows. Let's be honest here. By the time you do max out the entire strategy you claim works so well, the other team would have maxed out their inventory and would have no problem getting BKB and destroying you. The only thing your strategy does is annoy your teammates and fulfill your temptation to troll. "KS only about 10-25% of my kills." Yeah, I'm pretty sure a Furion who does no damage other than using Dagon has only KS'ed at the most, 25% of his kills. The other 75% must be the incredibly high base damage of yours.

[UltraKill]

It clearly doesn't work and you've played hundreds of games doing so with the majority of them leading to a terrible result.

But how doesn't it work? Dagon 5 is 800 damage, with ethereal it becomes 1200. Plus ethereal adds about 400 damage itself. So thats 1600 here. Add refresher - thats 3200. Furi also can ulty twice which will add some damage aswell. Also with these items you get about 100+150 attack and pretty good attack speed. Yes this furi is not good for pushing lanes but I think its fine for killing. It's just that in the beginning - you can't kill a full hp hero with just dagon 1. But if I finish my build fast enough - its gg. And to finish it fast enough I do need to ks a little bit (I ks only about 10-25% of my kills, if you think otherwise - provide at least 1 replay of proof or don't open the trash mouth) in the beginning. I mean I can pick lina and do the same, its just that she doesn't have global tp.

https://entgaming.net/openstats/dota/?u=masterkiller

267 games and you're around 750 elo. And that's one of the many accounts that you have used to experiment on this strategy. Clearly, if it works, you should be doing far better than what it shows. Let's be honest here. By the time you do max out the entire strategy you claim works so well, the other team would have maxed out their inventory and would have no problem getting BKB and destroying you. The only thing your strategy does is annoy your teammates and fulfill your temptation to troll. "KS only about 10-25% of my kills." Yeah, I'm pretty sure a Furion who does no damage other than using Dagon has only KS'ed at the most, 25% of his kills. The other 75% must be the incredibly high base damage of yours.

like what are you even talking about

[UltraKill]

It clearly doesn't work and you've played hundreds of games doing so with the majority of them leading to a terrible result.

But how doesn't it work? Dagon 5 is 800 damage, with ethereal it becomes 1200. Plus ethereal adds about 400 damage itself. So thats 1600 here. Add refresher - thats 3200. Furi also can ulty twice which will add some damage aswell. Also with these items you get about 100+150 attack and pretty good attack speed. Yes this furi is not good for pushing lanes but I think its fine for killing. It's just that in the beginning - you can't kill a full hp hero with just dagon 1. But if I finish my build fast enough - its gg. And to finish it fast enough I do need to ks a little bit (I ks only about 10-25% of my kills, if you think otherwise - provide at least 1 replay of proof or don't open the trash mouth) in the beginning. I mean I can pick lina and do the same, its just that she doesn't have global tp.

https://entgaming.net/openstats/dota/?u=masterkiller

267 games and you're around 750 elo. And that's one of the many accounts that you have used to experiment on this strategy. Clearly, if it works, you should be doing far better than what it shows. Let's be honest here. By the time you do max out the entire strategy you claim works so well, the other team would have maxed out their inventory and would have no problem getting BKB and destroying you. The only thing your strategy does is annoy your teammates and fulfill your temptation to troll. "KS only about 10-25% of my kills." Yeah, I'm pretty sure a Furion who does no damage other than using Dagon has only KS'ed at the most, 25% of his kills. The other 75% must be the incredibly high base damage of yours.

Just for you, I opened my game history and here are my last furion games:
http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 713330.w3g (win)
http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 712603.w3g (win)
http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 712548.w3g (loss, but you can see that team landed 0 kills, ff at 7 min and 7 elo lost)
http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 712140.w3g (win)
http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 712051.w3g (loss, but a 4v5 game, and team picked bad heroes)
http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 711965.w3g (win)
http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 711922.w3g (loss, slark and sven from my team both went mom first item, and fed. Which is why)
http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 710838.w3g (loss, cuz didnt notice kunkka on other team)
http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 709859.w3g (loss, cuz got kicked. That famous vk abuse.)

Those are my furion games out of my past 40 (FORTY) games.

So, I'm quoting you again: "It clearly doesn't work and you've played hundreds of games doing so with the majority of them leading to a terrible result." Stop the trash talk... please. You are admin, you shouldn't trash talk. "267 games and you're around 750 elo." Do I really have to waste my time explaining you everything? You can't judge furion build based on my elo. Just look - out of last 40 games, only 9 are furion. You are just assuming everything, that I played 267 games, all of them are furion games, and my elo is only 750, therefore furion build is crap etc... In reality you are just providing false information, just like those VK abusers who lied to enemy team that I sold boots. And you are inspiring this trash talk. I don't even know you in dota. Have I played you?

[UltraKill]

you are such a trash talker, im just lolling. Everything you write is trash.

you make no sense bro...

talking something that I ks. Provide ONE proof lol.

Trashtalker Astros.

[UltraKill]

@Edgeofchaos

when you ready?

[UltraKill]

@Astros

how come Kunkka is not crying about my furion? But rest of you are.

you also unbanned !VOTEKICK, 1 hour after he got banned:

viewtopic.php?f=25&t=141259

The funniest thing - both of you were still thinking I sold boots, just not the travels - but regular boots. This is just ridiculous.

Thats another fact showing who you are.

[Astros]

you are such a trash talker, im just lolling. Everything you write is trash.

you make no sense bro...

talking something that I ks. Provide ONE proof lol.

Trashtalker Astros.

I don't think you quite get it. There's a reason why your K/D is relatively high for someone who is 750 ELO. Your strategy doesn't work because you can counter it easily. Also, since you're mainly rushing Dagon and items like Lothars, the only way for you to possibly get a decent amount of kills is to wait for your teammates to engage and you just pop up for the kill. So explain to me how useful Furion is when his Dagon is on CD? You can't. Which is why in some games where your K/D ratio is high, your team ends up losing. Look at your items. How does any of your items prevent dying to a carry who decides to get BKB? I don't need to prove it at all. I've played with you (and so have many others here) and they all know what to expect when you choose Furion. I also find it funny you say everything I am writing is trash when thus far, it has been a unanimous agreement that your strategy sucks. If you truly think your strategy works, you would have no problem being able to prove you have a high winning rate with it.

[Astros]

@Astros

how come Kunkka is not crying about my furion? But rest of you are.

you also unbanned !VOTEKICK, 1 hour after he got banned:

viewtopic.php?f=25&t=141259

The funniest thing - both of you were still thinking I sold boots, just not the travels - but regular boots. This is just ridiculous.

Thats another fact showing who you are.

No, I said the player thought you had sold travel boots but you didn't so it was a misunderstanding. He's played thousands of games and has rarely gotten banned throughout his tenure here so there wasn't any need to punish him for something he acknowledged was a mistake.

Kunkka actually created this thread here to mock you:

viewtopic.php?f=62&t=141256

He's pretty much taking a shot at your Furion K/D strategy but you still haven't figured it out.

[Astros]

But how doesn't it work? Dagon 5 is 800 damage, with ethereal it becomes 1200. Plus ethereal adds about 400 damage itself. So thats 1600 here. Add refresher - thats 3200. Furi also can ulty twice which will add some damage aswell. Also with these items you get about 100+150 attack and pretty good attack speed. Yes this furi is not good for pushing lanes but I think its fine for killing. It's just that in the beginning - you can't kill a full hp hero with just dagon 1. But if I finish my build fast enough - its gg. And to finish it fast enough I do need to ks a little bit (I ks only about 10-25% of my kills, if you think otherwise - provide at least 1 replay of proof or don't open the trash mouth) in the beginning. I mean I can pick lina and do the same, its just that she doesn't have global tp.

https://entgaming.net/openstats/dota/?u=masterkiller

267 games and you're around 750 elo. And that's one of the many accounts that you have used to experiment on this strategy. Clearly, if it works, you should be doing far better than what it shows. Let's be honest here. By the time you do max out the entire strategy you claim works so well, the other team would have maxed out their inventory and would have no problem getting BKB and destroying you. The only thing your strategy does is annoy your teammates and fulfill your temptation to troll. "KS only about 10-25% of my kills." Yeah, I'm pretty sure a Furion who does no damage other than using Dagon has only KS'ed at the most, 25% of his kills. The other 75% must be the incredibly high base damage of yours.

Just for you, I opened my game history and here are my last furion games:
http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 713330.w3g (win)
http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 712603.w3g (win)
http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 712548.w3g (loss, but you can see that team landed 0 kills, ff at 7 min and 7 elo lost)
http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 712140.w3g (win)
http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 712051.w3g (loss, but a 4v5 game, and team picked bad heroes)
http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 711965.w3g (win)
http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 711922.w3g (loss, slark and sven from my team both went mom first item, and fed. Which is why)
http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 710838.w3g (loss, cuz didnt notice kunkka on other team)
http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 709859.w3g (loss, cuz got kicked. That famous vk abuse.)

Those are my furion games out of my past 40 (FORTY) games.

So, I'm quoting you again: "It clearly doesn't work and you've played hundreds of games doing so with the majority of them leading to a terrible result." Stop the trash talk... please. You are admin, you shouldn't trash talk. "267 games and you're around 750 elo." Do I really have to waste my time explaining you everything? You can't judge furion build based on my elo. Just look - out of last 40 games, only 9 are furion. You are just assuming everything, that I played 267 games, all of them are furion games, and my elo is only 750, therefore furion build is crap etc... In reality you are just providing false information, just like those VK abusers who lied to enemy team that I sold boots. And you are inspiring this trash talk. I don't even know you in dota. Have I played you?

So you proceed to prove my point in that 5/9 games (45% win ratio) was a loss because of your Furion strategy?

[UltraKill]

you are such a trash talker, im just lolling. Everything you write is trash.

you make no sense bro...

talking something that I ks. Provide ONE proof lol.

Trashtalker Astros.

I don't think you quite get it. There's a reason why your K/D is relatively high for someone who is 750 ELO. Your strategy doesn't work because you can counter it easily. Also, since you're mainly rushing Dagon and items like Lothars, the only way for you to possibly get a decent amount of kills is to wait for your teammates to engage and you just pop up for the kill. So explain to me how useful Furion is when his Dagon is on CD? You can't. Which is why in some games where your K/D ratio is high, your team ends up losing. Look at your items. How does any of your items prevent dying to a carry who decides to get BKB? I don't need to prove it at all. I've played with you (and so have many others here) and they all know what to expect when you choose Furion. I also find it funny you say everything I am writing is trash when thus far, it has been a unanimous agreement that your strategy sucks. If you truly think your strategy works, you would have no problem being able to prove you have a high winning rate with it.

Hey, trashtalker. This is how I get high kd:
http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 712657.w3g
http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 712512.w3g
http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 712256.w3g
http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 712226.w3g
http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 712105.w3g

no furi and no dagon involved. Of course there are some high kd furi games, but I didnt include here.

[Astros]

you are such a trash talker, im just lolling. Everything you write is trash.

you make no sense bro...

talking something that I ks. Provide ONE proof lol.

Trashtalker Astros.

I don't think you quite get it. There's a reason why your K/D is relatively high for someone who is 750 ELO. Your strategy doesn't work because you can counter it easily. Also, since you're mainly rushing Dagon and items like Lothars, the only way for you to possibly get a decent amount of kills is to wait for your teammates to engage and you just pop up for the kill. So explain to me how useful Furion is when his Dagon is on CD? You can't. Which is why in some games where your K/D ratio is high, your team ends up losing. Look at your items. How does any of your items prevent dying to a carry who decides to get BKB? I don't need to prove it at all. I've played with you (and so have many others here) and they all know what to expect when you choose Furion. I also find it funny you say everything I am writing is trash when thus far, it has been a unanimous agreement that your strategy sucks. If you truly think your strategy works, you would have no problem being able to prove you have a high winning rate with it.

Hey, trashtalker. This is how I get high kd:
http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 712657.w3g
http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 712512.w3g
http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 712256.w3g
http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 712226.w3g
http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 712105.w3g

no furi and no dagon involved. Of course there are some high kd furi games, but I didnt include here.

https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=11703475
https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=11701416
https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=11703133
https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=11703173
https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=11703202
https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=11703287
https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=11703475
https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=11703853

K/D ratio of over 2.5 throughout those games.




(41:03 / Allied) masterkiller: so now its my fault
(41:05 / Allied) Ultrafilter: yes
(41:09 / Allied) Megadrew: SQUISY
(41:11 / Allied) Ultrafilter: you have a negative w/l record
(41:12 / Allied) Ultrafilter: for a reason
(41:15 / Allied) Ultrafilter: ponder it for a bit
(41:24 / Allied) masterkiller: read my name idiot <------------------------ Here is you implying you only care about kills after he specifically mentions your poor W/L record. Totally great response.
(41:29 / Allied) Ultrafilter: got it

(just a random game from those losses I dug up to see if someone would notice your strategy being poor).

You still haven't explained to me how your strategy can counter someone who gets BKB. Just curious, what do you expect the game result to be when you're taking the kills from your teammates to build a squishy Furion strategy that is useless if the other team gets BKB or when your dagon is on CD?

[Edgeofchaos]

You free today @ultrakill ? I have to go in ~6hrs for the rest of the day (for me, 6pm, it is 12 noon right now), I'm free any time before that.

Else I'd tentatively say Saturday ~1pm or so. Might also need to be Sunday.

I have a stream. I'll stream it.
https://www.twitch.tv/voyagesdelame
I probably don't do commentary, maybe if people really want it I'll dust off the mic.