I didn't troll you at all. You are the one who started this. I did literally nothing to you, you paranoid freak. It wasn't even my worst game in months either. I don't know what you expect from me, but I'm not some DotA god who can singlehandedly turn around a game where we get totally destroyed. Literally no one is. You put ifck on a team of noobs and even he gets owned; check his most recent games. Part of playing DotA is accepting that some games you dominate, and some games you get crushed.
Sometimes you even get a good team and simply get outplayed. Since you always love bringing up ifck here's a game of him going 3-9 with Slark on a team of excellent players: https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=12208099 That's why we play the game instead of judging the winner/loser of the game based on their ELOs. Things like this happen. It's not really worth bringing up or posting about because when you play 100s of games with the same people, you always end up having games like this. If you look through my history you will find plenty of examples of me having terrible games. Who cares? It's the way it works.
Here's me completely failing with Slark and going 1-8, not on your team: https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=12238832 -> If I'm just targeting you, explain this then? Who was I "trolling" here?
There are few enough players left on ENT that I almost never bother reporting people even if they do things wrong. I give people a lot of grace here, and honestly I've seen you AFK and leave games way early many times and never reported you because I give you the benefit of the doubt. Even when you play like trash and feed all game on my teams, I might mock you ingame but I never held that against you going forward.
But if you want to start shit with me? Alright then go for it. I fight back though.
I'm reporting you every single time you do anything bannable from here on out. You better be on your best behavior or you're going to be taking bans left and right. No more kindness from me. You wanted a grudge, you got one, have fun asshole.
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You did not have a random bad game.
You specifically chose my hero. A hero known to be weak, when were were against a group of good players and then got smoked. To rub salt in the wound, you laughed about it all game with smolboi. And the icing on the cake was then playing well the very next game.
No one says you're infallible. But you NEVER ruin against me. Post any game where we are opponents and you completely ruined and Ill never talk to you again. You have my word. But if you dont find a game where you go 0-9 or similar against, please consider, at least subconsciously, that you don't try when you notice im your teammate.
You specifically chose my hero. A hero known to be weak, when were were against a group of good players and then got smoked. To rub salt in the wound, you laughed about it all game with smolboi. And the icing on the cake was then playing well the very next game.
No one says you're infallible. But you NEVER ruin against me. Post any game where we are opponents and you completely ruined and Ill never talk to you again. You have my word. But if you dont find a game where you go 0-9 or similar against, please consider, at least subconsciously, that you don't try when you notice im your teammate.
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I picked Destroyer because I didn't want you to play it. I should have repicked it instead of playing it, that was my mistake. Didn't figure they would counter me that hard.
I'll be honest, I don't think I've lost to you a single time in months. It's a lot easier to beat you than it is to carry you, considering that you don't do anything.
It's almost like losing a 4v5 game with no leaver gold. It's a bit embarrassing when it happens. I generally have around a 90% winrate against you though.
It's kind of the opposite of what you are saying. When I'm against you, I dominate the game while barely trying. When I'm on your team, I try hard and often times still lose because, yknow...
There's a game like this that I lost: https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=12258078 but really, this is a loss to Wayy + Hunter both playing powerful carries (hard to beat players)
Jazzy3113 wrote:Post any game where we are opponents and you completely ruined
I'll be honest, I don't think I've lost to you a single time in months. It's a lot easier to beat you than it is to carry you, considering that you don't do anything.
It's almost like losing a 4v5 game with no leaver gold. It's a bit embarrassing when it happens. I generally have around a 90% winrate against you though.
It's kind of the opposite of what you are saying. When I'm against you, I dominate the game while barely trying. When I'm on your team, I try hard and often times still lose because, yknow...
There's a game like this that I lost: https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=12258078 but really, this is a loss to Wayy + Hunter both playing powerful carries (hard to beat players)
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What is the bizarre narrative you and astros and all your friends perpetuate?
I am a NPC and never ever help the team? Like wtf is the point of saying such bullshit. If someone on my team ruins or feeds, I cannot ignore it and it greatly affects my gameplay. I admit that. But again, I am not the one feeding and ruining to begin with. The game is already lost by the time I get so angry I see red. It is unwinnable by the time i snap. I do not get why ruiners piss me off so much. It is not like we are playing for money, but I think getting ruiners way more than I get against them really irks me.
I am 650 elo. I have played 1655 games and my score averages are 5-6-9.
That is correct. I average NINE assists per game. On top of that, I have posted NUMEROUS games where I am clearly the best player on my team. That is defined by the player who is the highest level and has the most combined kills + assists. That's as good a proxy as we can have.
Why do I mention the above observations? Because if you compared me to other fellow 600 elo players, my average score is much better. PLUS, i have NEVER EVER seen a 600 elo player carry a team. Have you? Have you ever seen one? Please do post. Here are somerecent games I played where even you, with youre pure hatred of me, cannot possibly argue I didnt carry or was not the best by far. Me, a 600 el player. Just take a breathe and see what I am saying. Other players with similar elo, not even once, carry or are the best on their team. But I am occasionally? How? If I just ks or hide, how could I ever do the best?
https://h3rmit.gr/stats_ent/game/12261448
https://h3rmit.gr/stats_ent/game/12261440
https://h3rmit.gr/stats_ent/game/12261337
These are just from the last 20 games. Do I carry every game? Of course not. But someone who is 600 elo should never. I took a look at the last 20 games for other lower rated users. Not one of these players was ever the best on their team, not once. I also note every single one of these players is higher rated than me.
hidan
godlyke
h3rmit
nakamoto*_*
_xrp
8888
haliente
masterpain
lapelona
nubidubi
kingmaxim
ryee
On top of that, they almost all average more deaths than me per game.
So what conclusion can you draw? Since I average 9 assists I clearly participate in team fights. Unlike every other low elo player on the site, I occasionally carry a team to a win, or am at least the best player. I do not average more than 6 deaths a game. Plus, you need to take into account that good players dodge me, so many times I have the weaker team. Good players also play harder against me, which you yourself have admitted. I am not saying I dont deserve it, I am simply saying it 100% happens.
So why would an average player be lower rated than the very worst player on ent? Couldn't one reason be that the teammates this person gets suck? Again, let us use my most recent ten games as the sample size so I cannot cherry pick. There is always one player out of ten who feeds and ruins. Let's see who the worst player is in a game and if he is on my team or not.
Game 1
No one could be considered the ruiner, as the game was too short. But I will not the leaver was of course on my team.
Game 2
I would say I was the ruiner on my team and lapelona ruined for the enemy. I was upset from the last game ruin and could not concentrate. But I was the worst player on my team.
Game 3
Nubi ruined for me as usual. The ruin was so blatant, it affected me in the next game.
Game 4
synergyamps on my team was level 13. FIVE levels lower than the next lowest level hero. Was a complete non-factor and made the game 5v4 with no leaver gold, as you claim i do to my teams.
Game 5
grinchmas ruined hard. Ended the game at level 10. No, I am not kidding. I ended the game as level 20 to give you some idea.
Game 6
You kicked me after being afk for only 3 mins and your friend banned me. Thanks for that.
Game 7
grinchmas the ruiner as usual
Game 8
No one really ruined. I was team's lowest level. But for arguments sake lets call me the ruiner.
Game 9
No one ruined or was rated terrible.
Game 10
We were doing fine. Then ryee decided to solo charge and torpedo the game. The deaths from me and ogre all came towards the end as we tried to rax after damage was done. Keep in mind, after someone ruins a game, it makes everyones score seem bad as the other team is so fat they totally own.
Game 11
Finally the other team has the pure ruiner!
Game 12
nakamoto*_* was in usual ruiner mode for me
Game 13
poet (I think this is ET) always ruins for me. Literally always.
Game 14
Take your fucking pick who ruined for me. Scuba as usual was total dogshit
Game 15
titiqaqa and muse were in rare form
Game 16
welfare_check was ruining so hard early. The final score is deceiving since we fought all game and got the upper hand. But if you watch replay, this ruiner fed hard early and constantly was ffing. The other team had muse and haliente, and they did better than this guy. That is right, they did better.
So lets see. Last 16 games.
Jazzy is the worst on his team/ruins: 2
No one ruined: 2
Other team gets the ruiner: 1
Jazzy gets the ruiner: 9
This was most recent games so not cherry picking. 9/16 games I got the one ruiner player. Over 50% of the games, I got the ruiner. Shouldn't that number be 50%?
Even if you want to go into your usual box of excuses like score doesn't matter, people can have bad scores but actually help the team, etc - that wont hold water.
Because some of the ruiners were like 0-10 or 1-9 for me. Complete ruiners. But you can always argue that BS. Or say hey Jazzy, even you ruined two games by being the worst player.
But what is most telling to me is that I never seem to be AGAINST the 1-10 player. That never happens. Why? Because people troll me.
Again, not saying I dont bring this upon myself. I always call out the ruiners and ruiners get mad when you do that. You make people hate you when you call out their ruin. But the fact remains it happens more to me than the average ent player.
That is really all I am saying. When people reply that I could play better and all this shit, I agree. Sure I could play better. By my stats say I do get a decent amount assists and do occasionally carry. So am I really worse than pegase and zika and the like? Really? They are easy to carry than me? Really?
Or could it be that you and your friends find it hilarious to pick destro, go 0-9 and then claim it was your one random bad game of the week?
I am a NPC and never ever help the team? Like wtf is the point of saying such bullshit. If someone on my team ruins or feeds, I cannot ignore it and it greatly affects my gameplay. I admit that. But again, I am not the one feeding and ruining to begin with. The game is already lost by the time I get so angry I see red. It is unwinnable by the time i snap. I do not get why ruiners piss me off so much. It is not like we are playing for money, but I think getting ruiners way more than I get against them really irks me.
I am 650 elo. I have played 1655 games and my score averages are 5-6-9.
That is correct. I average NINE assists per game. On top of that, I have posted NUMEROUS games where I am clearly the best player on my team. That is defined by the player who is the highest level and has the most combined kills + assists. That's as good a proxy as we can have.
Why do I mention the above observations? Because if you compared me to other fellow 600 elo players, my average score is much better. PLUS, i have NEVER EVER seen a 600 elo player carry a team. Have you? Have you ever seen one? Please do post. Here are somerecent games I played where even you, with youre pure hatred of me, cannot possibly argue I didnt carry or was not the best by far. Me, a 600 el player. Just take a breathe and see what I am saying. Other players with similar elo, not even once, carry or are the best on their team. But I am occasionally? How? If I just ks or hide, how could I ever do the best?
https://h3rmit.gr/stats_ent/game/12261448
https://h3rmit.gr/stats_ent/game/12261440
https://h3rmit.gr/stats_ent/game/12261337
These are just from the last 20 games. Do I carry every game? Of course not. But someone who is 600 elo should never. I took a look at the last 20 games for other lower rated users. Not one of these players was ever the best on their team, not once. I also note every single one of these players is higher rated than me.
hidan
godlyke
h3rmit
nakamoto*_*
_xrp
8888
haliente
masterpain
lapelona
nubidubi
kingmaxim
ryee
On top of that, they almost all average more deaths than me per game.
So what conclusion can you draw? Since I average 9 assists I clearly participate in team fights. Unlike every other low elo player on the site, I occasionally carry a team to a win, or am at least the best player. I do not average more than 6 deaths a game. Plus, you need to take into account that good players dodge me, so many times I have the weaker team. Good players also play harder against me, which you yourself have admitted. I am not saying I dont deserve it, I am simply saying it 100% happens.
So why would an average player be lower rated than the very worst player on ent? Couldn't one reason be that the teammates this person gets suck? Again, let us use my most recent ten games as the sample size so I cannot cherry pick. There is always one player out of ten who feeds and ruins. Let's see who the worst player is in a game and if he is on my team or not.
Game 1
No one could be considered the ruiner, as the game was too short. But I will not the leaver was of course on my team.
Game 2
I would say I was the ruiner on my team and lapelona ruined for the enemy. I was upset from the last game ruin and could not concentrate. But I was the worst player on my team.
Game 3
Nubi ruined for me as usual. The ruin was so blatant, it affected me in the next game.
Game 4
synergyamps on my team was level 13. FIVE levels lower than the next lowest level hero. Was a complete non-factor and made the game 5v4 with no leaver gold, as you claim i do to my teams.
Game 5
grinchmas ruined hard. Ended the game at level 10. No, I am not kidding. I ended the game as level 20 to give you some idea.
Game 6
You kicked me after being afk for only 3 mins and your friend banned me. Thanks for that.
Game 7
grinchmas the ruiner as usual
Game 8
No one really ruined. I was team's lowest level. But for arguments sake lets call me the ruiner.
Game 9
No one ruined or was rated terrible.
Game 10
We were doing fine. Then ryee decided to solo charge and torpedo the game. The deaths from me and ogre all came towards the end as we tried to rax after damage was done. Keep in mind, after someone ruins a game, it makes everyones score seem bad as the other team is so fat they totally own.
Game 11
Finally the other team has the pure ruiner!
Game 12
nakamoto*_* was in usual ruiner mode for me
Game 13
poet (I think this is ET) always ruins for me. Literally always.
Game 14
Take your fucking pick who ruined for me. Scuba as usual was total dogshit
Game 15
titiqaqa and muse were in rare form
Game 16
welfare_check was ruining so hard early. The final score is deceiving since we fought all game and got the upper hand. But if you watch replay, this ruiner fed hard early and constantly was ffing. The other team had muse and haliente, and they did better than this guy. That is right, they did better.
So lets see. Last 16 games.
Jazzy is the worst on his team/ruins: 2
No one ruined: 2
Other team gets the ruiner: 1
Jazzy gets the ruiner: 9
This was most recent games so not cherry picking. 9/16 games I got the one ruiner player. Over 50% of the games, I got the ruiner. Shouldn't that number be 50%?
Even if you want to go into your usual box of excuses like score doesn't matter, people can have bad scores but actually help the team, etc - that wont hold water.
Because some of the ruiners were like 0-10 or 1-9 for me. Complete ruiners. But you can always argue that BS. Or say hey Jazzy, even you ruined two games by being the worst player.
But what is most telling to me is that I never seem to be AGAINST the 1-10 player. That never happens. Why? Because people troll me.
Again, not saying I dont bring this upon myself. I always call out the ruiners and ruiners get mad when you do that. You make people hate you when you call out their ruin. But the fact remains it happens more to me than the average ent player.
That is really all I am saying. When people reply that I could play better and all this shit, I agree. Sure I could play better. By my stats say I do get a decent amount assists and do occasionally carry. So am I really worse than pegase and zika and the like? Really? They are easy to carry than me? Really?
Or could it be that you and your friends find it hilarious to pick destro, go 0-9 and then claim it was your one random bad game of the week?
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You are correct about good players dodging you. That's because of the way you act, not luck.
Your KD obsession is funny, considering that hidan has an average of 9.6 assists per game but you gave him as an example of someone who wouldn't. h3rmit has 10.4 assists. Even LaPelona, the person who notoriously refuses to cooperate with the team has 6.6. Seriously who cares? KD doesn't win games.
There are so few players on ENT that everyone here has played with you a lot. Everyone knows exactly how you play. You essentially are an NPC/computer player ingame. Takes 0 risks, plays under the tower most of the time to protect your precious KD and not "feed", and as a result don't accomplish anything. That's why none of the good players want you on their team anymore.
Even someone like muse (who is horrible at the game) picks Bara every game and is constantly charging to try to make something happen. A good player on muse's team can take advantage of his play and get fed early from his charges. A good player on your team doesn't benefit from you being there at all.
I play risky and aggressive. Sometimes it doesn't work and I go 0-10 and lose. More often, I get a lot of good ganks and early kills, then snowball into lategame. I really don't understand how sitting behind the team all game is fun for you. Personally if I lose, I'd rather go down fighting and end up 0-10 having tried, rather than sit in base and end 1-1.
I do think it's funny when you lose because of how you act. I think it's funny that a grown man in his 40s rages and screams about losing fake points in an online video game with 20 people playing it. That is objectively a funny situation. But I still try my best because I play for the love of the game and I don't think sucking is fun.
Your KD obsession is funny, considering that hidan has an average of 9.6 assists per game but you gave him as an example of someone who wouldn't. h3rmit has 10.4 assists. Even LaPelona, the person who notoriously refuses to cooperate with the team has 6.6. Seriously who cares? KD doesn't win games.
There are so few players on ENT that everyone here has played with you a lot. Everyone knows exactly how you play. You essentially are an NPC/computer player ingame. Takes 0 risks, plays under the tower most of the time to protect your precious KD and not "feed", and as a result don't accomplish anything. That's why none of the good players want you on their team anymore.
Even someone like muse (who is horrible at the game) picks Bara every game and is constantly charging to try to make something happen. A good player on muse's team can take advantage of his play and get fed early from his charges. A good player on your team doesn't benefit from you being there at all.
I play risky and aggressive. Sometimes it doesn't work and I go 0-10 and lose. More often, I get a lot of good ganks and early kills, then snowball into lategame. I really don't understand how sitting behind the team all game is fun for you. Personally if I lose, I'd rather go down fighting and end up 0-10 having tried, rather than sit in base and end 1-1.
I do think it's funny when you lose because of how you act. I think it's funny that a grown man in his 40s rages and screams about losing fake points in an online video game with 20 people playing it. That is objectively a funny situation. But I still try my best because I play for the love of the game and I don't think sucking is fun.
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Edge, just ignore him. Let the thread die. This ain’t even entertaining anymore.
We already all know what the deal is. He’s just baiting all of us for a reaction.
We already all know what the deal is. He’s just baiting all of us for a reaction.
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Ive lowkey had the most fun playing dota in years since i read this thread.
I wont leave you jazzy, im here until the end
I wont leave you jazzy, im here until the end
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(16:06 / Allied) Jazzy3113: so now im going to play like hidan does
(16:08 / Allied) BossMan.: its 4v5
(16:11 / Allied) BossMan.: and u went elus first
(16:13 / Allied) BossMan.: smart move
(16:13 / Allied) Jazzy3113: sionce u all lvoe him so much
this is objectively hilarious. On my many shitty games, I get flamed to no end, and rightfully so. Although I do agree Jazzy helps keep the game engaging
(16:08 / Allied) BossMan.: its 4v5
(16:11 / Allied) BossMan.: and u went elus first
(16:13 / Allied) BossMan.: smart move
(16:13 / Allied) Jazzy3113: sionce u all lvoe him so much
this is objectively hilarious. On my many shitty games, I get flamed to no end, and rightfully so. Although I do agree Jazzy helps keep the game engaging
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He is jealous of you cause you are way better than him. He keeps getting pwned from players he thought he was better and thats why he gets so angry about. And if there is something super entertaining on this community, is making Jazzy losing his temper every game by crushing him. Thats unfair for the other players of his team though but thats life. First thing you have to do if you are on Jazzy's team is to ignore him.
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GodSaveTheQQs wrote:He is jealous of you cause you are way better than him. He keeps getting pwned from players he thought he was better and thats why he gets so angry about. And if there is something super entertaining on this community, is making Jazzy losing his temper every game by crushing him. Thats unfair for the other players of his team though but thats life. First thing you have to do if you are on Jazzy's team is to ignore him.
Oh really?
Look at my last few games today. Again no cherry picking.
https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=12261842
IM 6-8 axe. I went euls first then dagger. Oh what a horror I am! My game was ruined because of course we had a leaver and other team didnt draw
https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=12261845
For some odd reason taz and potm decide to fight over middle and ruin game. I would submit the two idiots, but only i seem to get banned these days.
https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=12261850
A stack so we should we lose. What is hilarious is that this time taz and the potm did not fight over mid and ruin. Im serious. They were again on the same team but this time didnt fight and team played
https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=12261852
I finally get a win. Why you might ask? I have to be the best player in the game. Literally the only way i win. The 500 elo has to carry or no shot at a win these days.
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Jazzy you know all this data is public right? Fairly easy to see that zero people from your team, including you, tried to draw, while 3 people on my team voted to draw. I don't understand how you operate in the world at all.
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Cards2016 wrote:Jazzy you know all this data is public right? Fairly easy to see that zero people from your team, including you, tried to draw, while 3 people on my team voted to draw. I don't understand how you operate in the world at all.
You are missing the point. People claim my games are normal and not ruined.
In the 4 games today - i had the one afk leaver, the game where two people fought over mid and ruined and then the next game against me played as a unit. So three ruined games lol.
The only game I won i literally had to buckle down and play the best.
I mean how you all can stare at this mountain of evidence and keep acting like i dont have a point is crazy to me.
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https://h3rmit.gr/stats_ent/game/12262502
This is a perfect example of how my games go.
Of course I get the 1 or 2 feeders for each game.
But the ruining goes deeper. He takes NA to troll me. Proceeds to ruin the game and go 4-10.
Zeus was afk for 20 mins! Other team refuses to kick. Meanwhile, Chaos has me kicked and banned for going afk for THREE MINS!
Do you see what i deal with every game?
It goes beyond always getting the ruiner. Ive become accustomed to that. I get people taking NA who dont know how to play it and ruin. My afkers dont even get kicked! It's insane.
If you all agree to stop feeding and ruining every single game for me. I wont talk anymore. I will be perma mute. Just please stop constantly ruining and feeding every single game of mine.
This is a perfect example of how my games go.
Of course I get the 1 or 2 feeders for each game.
But the ruining goes deeper. He takes NA to troll me. Proceeds to ruin the game and go 4-10.
Zeus was afk for 20 mins! Other team refuses to kick. Meanwhile, Chaos has me kicked and banned for going afk for THREE MINS!
Do you see what i deal with every game?
It goes beyond always getting the ruiner. Ive become accustomed to that. I get people taking NA who dont know how to play it and ruin. My afkers dont even get kicked! It's insane.
If you all agree to stop feeding and ruining every single game for me. I wont talk anymore. I will be perma mute. Just please stop constantly ruining and feeding every single game of mine.
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https://h3rmit.gr/stats_ent/game/12262588
9 normal players.
One feeding dagon bara.
Guess whose team he is on?
Worst part, if I submitted for ban, not one teammate would comment in support i bet.
9 normal players.
One feeding dagon bara.
Guess whose team he is on?
Worst part, if I submitted for ban, not one teammate would comment in support i bet.
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