Not another Tier List - DOTA

[dumpster_]

Very kind of you but I'm not in the same league as these guys. I'd say that even between some of the rest of them there are pretty big gaps.

[Frank]

Not sure about the counterpicking one. Bara, Omni, Silencer, and Veno are natural born counters and that's mostly what No_Rules and others listed play. Haven't seen them play ES, ezalor, etc., Pretty short list of heroes that they can actually play that just so happen to be counters.

Flippin_Turtles and wc3! are pretty good mechanically. Razorramon used to be good mechanically with denying creeps and harassing heroes safely but it's become hit-or-miss lately.

Blueneme definitely deserves a mention for top support. Mainly because he doesn't say anything negative to his teammates and always wards, tp's to help carries, etc.,

I'd put Zjarr there for comeback player even though he mainly plays PL. Dude plays average for 95% of the game but sometimes pulls it through and wins.

Most underrated list:
Thebrady


Biggest stackers:
Kevin9188 <---- stacks, expects to get carried, but plays for himself. countless times he will leave you there to die. seen him many times as Dirge just stand behind everyone else refusing to initiate.
Laucibai <---- megastacker who rotates between accounts in the lobby. Ends up just feeding and playing retarded. Really selfish player. Tries to pretend he's a law-abiding player on here by acting civilized but his gameplay has been borderline bannable depending on whether you care enough to push it.
Yummis <---- plays necro most of the time specifically so he can KS with his ulti. Many times he would show up at the very last second, ulti to KS a low HP enemy, and then run away leaving you to die after you've done all the work. Horrible player but even a more horrible personality of an individual.

Most annoying:
Barabesthero
Freemywilly

Trader does play ezalor but Ive put in him in another more suiting category

agree on the rest and maybe they could be rank 4 or 5 or something, and this goes for a lot of others that aren't in there, youre likely next in line at rank 4 or I haven't thought of a category to best fit you in yet

I agree about thebrady he has a suiting spot in there now aswell

I agree with every fiber on my body about Barabesthero but im trying not to flame people here anymore. Don't worry I let them know in game.

[Jazzy3113]

Given enough time, Jazzy will turn every thread into a Jazzy thread. It appears "enough time" was 6 posts.

I didnt say a word, some jackass said i was the worst player on ent along with master pain. Which is total bs imo.

[Snells]

"Most miserable category"

They didn't say shit about your gameplay (which sucks). Just that you are miserable to be around, which is 100% accurate.

[aesrf]

Sorry Jazz but you're in that category along with others. You and astros can go to therapy together + u guys seriously need meds

[GodSaveTheQQs]

Cool and interesting thread. I'll give my list as well, mostly of players i like to play with or against regardless if they are pros, good,average, below average or even bad at times. I dont care, it doesnt matter to me. What matters to me is that the players of the list below are cool non-toxic guys most of the times. No crying, no typing !ff from 4minute when the game starts, no flame, positive energy and they concentrate on having a good and competitive game above all. Thats my criteria when i play dota.

*I know i should include Jazzy to my list but this guy is beyond comparison and he actually can fit to any tier list.*

So, here we go.
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Hi! my name is pro!

@Astros: He can lead you to win and carry everyone ass here as long as he doesn't get frustrated early with his team and loses his mind.
Always has winner mentality and he is a good person to talk with and taking advices from. If he stays calm ingame he is unbeatable. Now after thousands of games with diff alliases i can understand insta who he is by his way of play. I'm sure i'm not the only one. Not that it can change a lot in the outcome of the game but it can be a warning if you play to recognize its him. Well its gonna be either he or ifck, so no big deal lol.

@Ifck: I remember a word Astros told me back in the past- and trust me i have good memory- when we were in the same team against Ifck's team and he was 100% correct: "This guy is just ungankable". You cant kill him. While he comes and kills you literally from nowhere. You are dead in 4 sec. Nothing more we can say here. Dont wanna meet his Slark, Spec, and above all his Storm. Frenchy is top of the top no doubt, he just sometimes likes to talk too much to others so you can literally get distracted from the game. The recent conversation he had ingame with Frank about kicking Akinetic who took mid in a previous game is unforgetable. 45 mins chatting about it. Mike was in that game too and he can confirmed it lol.
Also older verbal altercations i remember he had with Astros e.g. about Israel - arabs etc were epic. Tiring discussions though. All belong to the past now.

@Baikal: He has something unusual in his playstyle, he can literally play any hero even the most complicated ones as a pro and despite we havent played many many games together he was trully special the way he played. I dont know if he has any other acc's or if he is any of the other players of this list. No matter what he is one of the best players on ENT for me and it was always a joy to be in the same team with him. One of my fav.

***personal emphasising: No offence, the only thing i dont like about the so called "pro players" is that they think, they can't make any stupid mistakes ingame or they are beyond all criticism so they have the right to "judge" their team most of the times. They dont encourage them but quite the opposite. And they dont understand thats even worse to throw a tantrum on your teammate even if he is super bad (we are not talking about ruiners) than encourage them. Dota is a game of mistakes. Even when the carrys are making a few of them. Still mistakes are mistakes and even one could be crucial to give the enemy team the win. Ofc the carry leads and paves the way for winning but its really dissapointed to blame all of your teammates if the plan goes bad or when you get your first death. Specially when you see your teammates are trying to support you as a carry. Even dying for you to stay alive. I m not talking ofc for retarted people who dont wanna listen to anyone doing their own things ruining on purpose...
Thats how it is. Τhe balance is delicate and mistakes will happen one way or another. The community is small and we all know each other well for years. I bet we could have a beer in real life if it was possible.
A little more respect to the guy who may now failed hard but he supported and gave you the win in the previous game(s).

Thats all.
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The "3 Ghosts"

@Dumpster_ : I m sure i ve played many games with him but i dont know he really is. His main account (master_ouchies hahanewshoes) ?
He has many. lol. You know some people are cool and ok even by their presence on forum and Dumpster is one of them. My opinion .You dont have to agree.

@EdteofChaos2: Exactly the same like Dumpster_

@MR_Nimbuss: Exactly the same like EdteofChaos2
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The Dota Buddies

@Zikaviruss: One of the best dota buddies for me, played countless games as allies and enemies, he always tryin his best and supports the team even if some times looks like he is having a total blackout. But thats game and there is no exception.

@Kobz: To my eyes he is the best Naix player i ve ever seen. He has great improvement lately in my eyes as a player and he is the frontline in every battle. Very aggressive and very kind as well. Love to play with him and i have total respect as an opponent. He may isnt good with other heroes as he is with Naix but that doesnt bother me.

@Boldx: He and NoobHunter 2 are the best Dirge players for me. As long as he doesnt drops. lmao. Now he fixed his disconnection problem we will have better and ofc longer games. He is always competitive and stable either playing Dirge or Bara or Gyro never let you alone in battle.

@Eloric: Allthough he has a bad streak lately i like him and i like when he plays his fav Admiral. Some games when he played Spec he did very well and carried his team. I was in those games and i can confirm that if plays more games with Spec he will change to carry heroes. Or at least to Spec.
He is a very good guy and i enjoy when we play together.
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"Weirdos"

@Richardcoffee: Well look now something strange. In the past we had our things. He liked to troll and flamed me for no reason when he played under "McDonaldPudge" or "PhillyCheestake" i dont know why. He, like many others got frustrated and mad very often for all reasons of the world when the game started regardless of his team thinking he is a pro guy making no mistakes.
He liked to flame - troll the enemy team too but thats ok when you dont go Jazzy mode and chat all game. When he came back playing under "Richardcoffee" after a long time he was an almost diff person. I always knew he was funny and had nothing to do with real bad-toxic players. His behaviour though was really bad at start and i wanted to avoid him. But not anymore. I even watched some of his games with Pudge on YT.
I remember back then he mentioned it in game, so i said to myself "Fuck it, why not" ? even if i hated this guy at that time lol.
Now he still likes to trolls the team and having fun -which is ok ofc- but he improved well playing Necro, Tiny LC and his fav Pudge (one of the funniest heroes out there).
He is a good ganker always active lurking around to find the enemy at woods even often his decisions leads his team 100% to death (no Richard you cant outcome Trader's kamikaze mode yet) but thats ok cause he after types something like: "Hey wtf you all failed there lmao" (when he knows he failed first and the most vs 5 enemies on the other side of the map even before his team could reach him lol).

Thats where i m laughing to death (after i die with him). Well done Richard you earned your spot to GodQQ's list.


@Saint123: How could i forgot one of the oldest guys here? His TB brings always death and destruction. To enemy towers and raxes! Which is good.
If your team isn't getting rekt and needs your help against 5 enemies. But you can't tp back cause your main purpose is raxing the top tower on the other side of the map thinking you can always win with that specific way like a Rhasta. Meanwhile the enemy team fucks over your team and raxed T3 at the same time. Game over gg. Love it. But i wanna be fair. Many times he got us the win by doing this strat. And i remember team never say a word about raxing with TB ofc. Thats one good strat and we all know what a good TB is capable of. Team most of the times just wanted his help when its crucial but he was only focusing on raxing ending a game as fast as he could.
Good news is those noobish acts after countless games belongs to the past. When my buddy here switched to Venge we all saw his trully potencial and how good he could really perform when he wants. No joking, he is very supportive and good killer with Venge and i really like how he plays now. I respect him when we are in opposite teams and take his gameplay seriously. He changed his strategy and hero and he got way way better. Good warding as well when he picks any hero.

@Razorramonchico: Crazy korean man. He is able for the most epic pro moves and also for the worst ones. He is very kind and whatever hero he picks he does unusal things making unusual items. Some times it works really really good sometimes not. You can see he ownz everyone in a game and in the very next he can be worse than... planaria. I wish he could speak ingame more often so to understand whats he is planning to do. I m sure ifck, RichardCoffee and specially Astros would have the same question. Nevertheless i would definetely pick him if i had the chance. He is something different a totally 50% coinflip for the upcoming result of your team but always cool to play with and against him. He has very good mechanical skills.

@DesertIsland: Hats off to my fav ES player on ENT. He is super good when he plays ES and Tiny most of the times. He wards often (even if for an unknown reason keeps his obs-sentrys on him quite long lmao) helps the team escaping and makes epic gangs at times with his hero jumping in.
I like his playstyle on ES - Tiny and despite he is playing 3 heroes only he is very good as a support.
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Oldschool mathafackas

@Scubasteve: The guy who picks Mirana and fucked mylife. Could be the title of any of the games i've played against him. Really idc about stats etc all of those guys in this tier are with one and only acc like me. I ve played epic, bad, and normal games with Scuba. All of kinds. He is a very balanced player specially with Mirana. And lately he is doing ok with Leoric too. So for me is nice to have him in the same team. No trashtalk, no blame allies, no complain. He is trying every game to do his job. Sometimes fails like all, sometimes his job is really good. I dont expect any of you to agree with my picks but pay some respect to the oldschool fellas like Scuba. gg mate.

@Koreanjesus: This guy plays almost any hero and has a fairly good percentage according to his skills. I wish i could play all those heroes too and perform almost the same in every game. Good, medium, or bad. He hasnt play a lot the last year and i wish i could find him more often in lobby. Koreanjesus has manners and always like to help his team and be competitive. He does some crazy moves ingame and indeed you think he is a korean star (the other half of Razorramonchico). Always a pleasure to play with you brother.

@Gipsy: I'll tell you guys one thing about this crazy bastard and he will understand.

Ok now, lets move on to our next.

@Eastybeasty @Best_Nick_Ever: I dont know why but both of them have my sympathy. I know you all gonna say they ruin underscoring blah blah blah
but i ve noticed that if they have the proper motive and if team help them at start with ganks or protect they will try and perform at least decent for team. They dont cry and shittalk plus they dont play for ELO nor making new acc's for stacking. They are who they are hard to have them both in the same team but they are good guys.
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"I know a killer when i see one"
(Giannis Antetokounmpo, referring to Greek basketball legend Nick Galis)

@Snowcrab: Honestly i dont know why i like this guy. I think its cause of his nick. Anyway he is a very good player and surely deserves more. A bit underrated i think. He can carry, support, tank whatever you want with non carry heroes. Always in the right place at the right time.Great map awareness and killer instinct.

@Noob_Hunter_2: As i said above one of the best Dirge player i ve ever played with and against. He is very aggressive, always good ganker-engager
with his heroes like Husk etc. Its a bit rare to find a non toxic super competitive 1500 elo player here who always plays to have a good game at first and doesnt care only for stats/Win. Wish he could play more often the community needs players like him imo.

@T-A-Z: He is an ok guy to play with. If the team has no other carry he does his job as a carry pretty well. Actually he has carry me and other mediocre players many times. He doesnt like to talk much but he has improved his behaviour from the past (flamed and ignored too much). He is a really good player and you can count on him when the game starts. Definetely a good killer/farmer. I like it when he plays Bone,Jugg,Shadow Fiend and Spec. I dont like it when he picks them and i'm on the opposite team.

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Last but not least

@Mike: A super nice buddy, supports everyone, never complain, silent like me, gives everything he has to his team the heart of the community keeps the balance. Our guardianWISP i would say. I only wish he would stack less with ifck when in lobby im ok with it
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Bonus!!!

@Koolaid11: #$$%youfuck4988 cuntasdf@#$^% fuck you@#$$66 fuck off cuntASF^#%^ piece of shit!@#$asdf!@@ .

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*Edit: Special thanks to: @H3rmit Forgot to mention this good fella to my list. Only because he hasn't played the last year until recent and i almost forgot him. It's always a pleasure to be on the same team with him cause he plays most of the heroes with the same ability and i know what to expect when we play together. Always supportive and goes tanky if it must and day by day i think he goes even better in the majority of his games. I think he has a great potencial. Great in assisting and good map awareness specialy with Bara. Hope he plays more with us.
Big thanks for what he has done on bug fixing and the time he spends to help the community in every problem.

[kunkka]

most annoying is that techie player who always owns on new accounts, can't even repick cuz he always smurfs!

[sunrise3]

wish i made the list is ok

[Frank]

wish i made the list is ok

ur one of the best roamers but i kinda grouped positions 4 and 5 under 1 support category maybe i should divide it... ill think about it and do it later

[gip]

@Gipsy: I'll tell you guys one thing about this crazy bastard and he will understand.

@GodSaveTheQQs haha, bro. I'll catch you cheating, nobody knows, but I see you bro, I see you! Lovely summary good job.

[GodSaveTheQQs]

@Gipsy: I'll tell you guys one thing about this crazy bastard and he will understand.

@GodSaveTheQQs haha, bro. I'll catch you cheating, nobody knows, but I see you bro, I see you! Lovely summary good job.

Thanks brother big shoutout to the fanciest Bara picker out there. As long as you still fail with Bara charges you deserve a special place to this list

Big hug

[minger1]

The best position 5 hard support imo is ETMshow (the New Zealand bloke).

kcuc a si yzzaj.

TY, BOLBOL

[minger1]

most annoying is that techie player who always owns on new accounts, can't even repick cuz he always smurfs!

most annoying is that gondar pkr who always owns on new accounts, can't even repick cuz he always smurfs! yy

[Credits]

where am I on this list!!!!! i feelz the loves

[iCONiC]

where am I on this list!!!!! i feelz the loves

I should be on this list "best carry" overall isP xd