lets talk about !ff

[RichardCoffee]

Hi Richard. Thanks for the response. I love you too. Unfortunately i cant be sure about anyone . You are all making 100 new acc every day so excuse me if i cant recognize you. But if you say you are not 69pudge i ll accept it. Easily to say that "just words in a game". Remind me this next time if someones ruins your game or accused you of mh or anything like this. And if everything are just words lets start ignoring each other and play a silent game. Maybe its better that way.

You can tell who it is by country IP + heros chosen + chat style usually. I always have a US flag showing the IP. This user had Netherlands.

Honestly, I don't think flaming is good, even though I engage in it myself. At this point almost everyone does. However, I've come to accept its just banter and part of the game for the most part.

I mean, it depends on context and what's exactly said, too. There are some toxic chats and players here. But IMO there wasn't even anything outrageously offensive said in that game you linked. It seemed to be just discussing game strategy, expressing frustration at the teamwork, and interlacing mild cuss words like 'dumbass'. Yeah it's not good but is it really all that crazy? If LC can't handle that, he should've just ignored.

[Frank]

I mean ok guys relax a little. Ok i understand its nice to play a competitive game, i like to play and win in every game too but lets calm a bit. Some players doesnt have the proper skills to play above a certain level (myself included) others doesnt play carry heroes (myself included) others play 1-2 heros at most, others dont wanna improve or cant improve and others are good - average but super toxic wasting all their energy to flame their teammates instead of trying to win the game.

I loathe putting in 100 percent effort and getting at best 30 percent from my teammates when I know they can play better and more proactively. It will never not bother me... I know its one of my flaws... I been called out recently for calling people out for this... I'm trying to not say anything but sometimes it gets to me. (I'm beginning to sound like jazzy ..fk)

[GodSaveTheQQs]

"You can tell who it is by country IP + heros chosen + chat style usually. I always have a US flag showing the IP. This user had Netherlands."

From heroes + chat style yes. By his country IP not 100%. Ask H3rmit about it and he will tell you. I was suprised to found out just yesterday after all those years that i am from the same country as H3rmit is (Greece). It was hilarious lol cause we always spoke english and on ENT his flag showed Austria always. Kobz shows Iranian flag. Many players flag are correct but for others flag often changes game by game. If i dont understand something please correct me.

"Honestly, I don't think flaming is good, even though I engage in it myself. At this point almost everyone does. However, I've come to accept its just banter and part of the game for the most part."

I agree. Thats why i said provokation and trolling are part of the game. But i think there should be limits. Cause one way or another we all getting affected by toxic behaviour. Even if we doesnt want to. And that behaviour often lead people to put less personal effort, no focusing at all and in the end just frustration to the current game.

"I mean, it depends on context and what's exactly said, too. There are some toxic chats and players here. But IMO there wasn't even anything outrageously offensive said in that game you linked. It seemed to be just discussing game strategy, expressing frustration at the teamwork, and interlacing mild cuss words like 'dumbass'. Yeah it's not good but is it really all that crazy? If LC can't handle that, he should've just ignored."

Nothing outrageously offensive yes but until then our team was focused on game and we had our chance. When both of them started arguing each other the game was getting harder. Thats why i said that LC should just ignore Necro. But Necro could just easily stop teasing him. LC said several times in chat that he gonna leave if necro continued provokation. And then suddenly he did. He left the game and our chance of winning dropped from 50% to 100%. Wouldnt be better if both of them just stfu and play their game ?

[GodSaveTheQQs]

I'm trying to not say anything but sometimes it gets to me. (I'm beginning to sound like jazzy ..fk)

I know mate. The doctors called it the "Jazzy effect". You cant avoid it. lol

I loathe putting in 100 percent effort and getting at best 30 percent from my teammates when I know they can play better and more proactively. It will never not bother me... I know its one of my flaws...

Well, you know better than me that we all have our moments. Every day is not the same, players, teams, hero picks are not the same in every game and ofc a toxic behaviour will not have any good impact if you are trying to push your teammates to the win. Im not talking about you personally. I can say for sure that you are the last of pro players here who talks shit to your teammates to "wake them up". You have another style which i respect and recognize even if sometimes i dont agree with. But thats another discussion not related with this topic and i m ok with it.

So, i dont think someone is going to have less effort not 100% as you say. It depends on how you see the game itself.
For me, as i mentioned before in the two examples i gave above, i can handle a bad score and keep playin as good as i can to win the game and help my allies. Thus i m not typing !ff in first chance. Thats why i mentioned the game with Hunter2 who picked Spec when we were in terrible situation at start almost losing it but we kept our positions and temper until we finally won the game. Some people like Jazzy -and ofc many others not just him- cant handle a bad score or performing bad. Their main goal is just to have good stats. They dont care about he game, they dont live it and thats why they dont play passionate.

[Jazzy3113]

I'm trying to not say anything but sometimes it gets to me. (I'm beginning to sound like jazzy ..fk)

I know mate. The doctors called it the "Jazzy effect". You cant avoid it. lol

I loathe putting in 100 percent effort and getting at best 30 percent from my teammates when I know they can play better and more proactively. It will never not bother me... I know its one of my flaws...

Well, you know better than me that we all have our moments. Every day is not the same, players, teams, hero picks are not the same in every game and ofc a toxic behaviour will not have any good impact if you are trying to push your teammates to the win. Im not talking about you personally. I can say for sure that you are the last of pro players here who talks shit to your teammates to "wake them up". You have another style which i respect and recognize even if sometimes i dont agree with. But thats another discussion not related with this topic and i m ok with it.

So, i dont think someone is going to have less effort not 100% as you say. It depends on how you see the game itself.
For me, as i mentioned before in the two examples i gave above, i can handle a bad score and keep playin as good as i can to win the game and help my allies. Thus i m not typing !ff in first chance. Thats why i mentioned the game with Hunter2 who picked Spec when we were in terrible situation at start almost losing it but we kept our positions and temper until we finally won the game. Some people like Jazzy -and ofc many others not just him- cant handle a bad score or performing bad. Their main goal is just to have good stats. They dont care about he game, they dont live it and thats why they dont play passionate.

I care about stats? Then why dont i try to stack? Why do i sometimes pick axe or OD? Why dont I just play gondar all the time?

The hilarious part is i post about in game stats to prove how dogshit people play and troll me, and you think i care about stats? Then i would just tiny dagon or lothar slark every fucking game.

Godsaves is going on and on likes he some great player. Meanwhile when he is on my team, he goes 0-10 as nort and ruins.

[GodSaveTheQQs]

Jazzy Doctors suggest that in your case we just say "yes". So from me its a yes in whatever you say buddy. Dont worry we all love you here. No hate.

Godsaves is going on and on likes he some great player. Meanwhile when he is on my team, he goes 0-10 as nort and ruins.

Yes.