[LTD] LTD madao-chan @ europe.battle.net

[Wincidion]

Replay Link: https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=9839963
Game Name: [ENT] Legion TD Mega 1200+ #78
Your Warcraft III Username: wincidion
Violator's Warcraft III Username: madao-chan
Violated Rule(s): forced send on 14 even though the rest of team was against it
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): 28:44 / Allied) Madao-chan: i will send 14, do whatever you want.
Any further thoughts: We had immo, 4 heals, fat ea and the other team sent arena. For some reason red was convinced that we would die 14 and forced us into a send... Plz ban

[Indrial]

What a poor liar..., you(teal) and purp agreed to send 14. I mean, it was even your call.
(17:21 / Allied) wincidion: we can send 12
(17:34 / Allied) wincidion: push i stay
(24:59 / Allied) wincidion: 14 i guess
(25:02 / Allied) poutanesoles: +
(25:02 / Allied) wincidion: could race as well
(25:09 / Allied) juniors: gj
(25:10 / Allied) Madao-chan: didnt you call 12? jesus fuck
(25:11 / Allied) LeviTalBard: they too send 14 =)
(25:19 / Allied) LeviTalBard: build anti 14?
(25:23 / Allied) HarleQuin_: i thought 1 suicider is enough
(25:32 / Allied) wincidion: yeah i guess go anti 14
(25:42 / Allied) LeviTalBard: mass cyborg nice?)
(25:46 / Allied) LeviTalBard: + overseer
(25:56 / Allied) Madao-chan: -rolls


You have called to send r12, that is the reason why i have pushed 7/7, nobody was against your call.
Since you havent send 12, neither 13, our only possible chance was 14, since the opposite team has arena sent for 160income. Sending 15 was a retardness (we would propably also die there) since they were boosted from this income, so we couldnt even go for 17.

If you would just stick with your previous call to send 12, which would stall the game, také some heal and then we could kill them 17.


I had totally no clue why did you change the call to send 14, again, nobody was against your call.

Just sticked with your call. For sure wont stay 7/7 with over 3,3K lumber till some imagination round you might want to send, maybe you would even call to send 32.

for example:

(27:17 / Allied) wincidion: we dont die 14
(27:18 / Allied) wincidion: ever
(27:20 / Allied) wincidion: we can 15
(27:25 / Allied) Madao-chan: we cant 15
(27:26 / Allied) juniors: they know we dont have wood
(27:32 / Allied) wincidion: why?
(27:36 / Allied) LeviTalBard: build anti 14 or 15?
(27:37 / Allied) Madao-chan: because you are a tard
(27:40 / Allied) juniors: i gues 15
(27:44 / Allied) wincidion: that was rich
(27:48 / Allied) Madao-chan: they already have 160 income since the arena
(27:49 / Allied) juniors: or 14
(28:14 / Allied) Madao-chan: 12 was a good call, dunno why did you tards change ir ro 14/15
(28:16 / Allied) wincidion: and you think we die 14>
(28:20 / Allied) Madao-chan: we have to send 14

(28:29 / Allied) juniors: ok
(28:32 / Allied) wincidion: i wont send 14
(28:34 / Allied) wincidion: just to prove to you
(28:36 / Allied) wincidion: that we dont die
(28:48 / Allied) wincidion: cool story bro
(28:56 / Allied) Madao-chan: you have already made your call to send 12 and changed it to 14
(29:02 / Allied) wincidion: i did not change it
(29:04 / Allied) poutanesoles: l5?
(29:05 / Allied) wincidion: you going king
(29:06 / Allied) wincidion: when i said
(29:09 / Allied) wincidion: me and blue
(29:10 / Allied) wincidion: a little king
(29:11 / Allied) Madao-chan: !ignore winci
(29:14 / Allied) wincidion: changed that call\
(29:24 / Allied) wincidion: retard
(29:26 / Allied) wincidion: reported
(29:32 / Allied) wincidion: go now
(29:48 / Allied) wincidion: fat ea and me
(29:50 / Allied) wincidion: 4 heals immo
(29:55 / Allied) wincidion: he scared we die 14
(30:02 / Allied) poutanesoles: u will report him?
(30:03 / Allied) wincidion: i will
(30:03 / Allied) wincidion: i get a bonner
(30:03 / Allied) wincidion: from reporting
(30:03 / Allied) poutanesoles: please
(30:03 / Allied) wincidion: ppl like him
(30:49 / Allied) wincidion: imagine that


So blue wasnt communicating at all. Purple was just purple and wincidion(teal) was changing calls every single round.

And im there, deadline with 7/7 waiting... worst 1200+ game ever. Some creatures simply arent made to make calls

[Wincidion]

It is a fluid game and calls change.
The fact that this creature of God was scared of dying 14 with immo, 4 heals, fat and them sending for arena speaks to the fact that none of us wanted to send 14 or were scared of them sending 14.
He also ignored one player at round 1 for no apparent reason and is a toxic player that is in dire need of some good old tough ban love.
The call was 12 and I said me and blue (the holders) should do a couple of extra up king for inc. For some reason the other two players also did full king.
So that was what changed call 12.
The bottom line is that all 3 players were against sending 14 and he forced us into a send with a solo send.

[Indrial]

Well, you should be posting the chat where they were agaisnt the call. Since blue wasnt communicating at all and i was sending 14, i hardly doubt it is 3, maybe 2. - another lie
-so possible 50% of the team agreed to send, or maybe 75% since you have made the call, or maybe 100% since purple agreed before. Hard to say, you were just way too hardly brain damaged.

Purple was muted at round3, not round1 - another lie The reason was quite simple, There was a question if we send 3, I said that i need to, then there was a leak in the opposite team and i have sent, since i needed it( in my opinion) yet, right after i have sent, purple made a call: Skip 3 and go 5.
What does it mean? He has made me to solo send and mods can propably ban me for that. Wasnt really my fault but it has just happened.
If someone asks to send 3, other one says he needs it and then some ******creature says go 5, I just dont think this creature should be even alive.

Guess that is just it. Hopefuly you will make some new lie, I'm quite lonely so I can at least chat with you.

[Wincidion]

If you would like to try and explain why you thought we had to send 14 with 4 heals, immo, fat ea and them sending for arena be my guest.
Again.
This is about your game rule violation.
You forced send on 14.
Blue was communicating and purp and me said clearly enough no 14.
Plz ban,

[Indrial]

You still doesnt make a sense buddy. It was your call, everyone except non communicating blue agreed with it. That is what it is. You have fucked the game by not sending 12 which was your first call. Changing calls every single round is cute, but that is just not how this game works.

Also your claiming we wouldnt die 14 with 4 heals left and immo doesnt make any sense, since you were forcing blue to build cyborgs+overseers for 14, instead of hydra for 15... just saying.

[Wincidion]

We could not send 12 because you and purp upped king when I told you not to.
All the things you said dont change the fact that you solo send and forced a send.
THat is against the rules and bannable.

[Indrial]

But it wasnt a solo send. Was an agreed send, made by you, approved by purple. So i have sent, blue wasnt communicating - if he would made some call, well it might have looked differently. Im not the one to blame.

[Wincidion]

We all said no 14.
You sent.
That's called a forced send.

[Indrial]

Who is all? Blue didnt say anything, i wanted to send 14, purple said, and I quote: (29:04 / Allied) poutanesoles: l5?

Is this really disapprovel with sending 14? I mean he was muted, but even so, i cant really see him saying anything about not sending 14.
And i repeat, blue didnt say anything
So it was just your call. Your call isnt ''we all said no 14'', you are not Kiwi, he is all. Equal to mods behaviour


(32:59 / All) wincidion: can we kick and draw
(33:03 / All) wincidion: it would do a world of good

An attempt for VK abuse? Just kidding, i know your brain is just damaged.

[Wincidion]

I would tell you that not sending 14 with our lumber and when we are not in any danger not of dying but not in any danger of not losing a heal is common sense...
Blue said that he follows.
Me and purp said no 14.
I will end the discussion here and let the mods sort it out.
Again.
Bottom line.
He forced a send.

[Indrial]

Blue didnt say anything and purple didnt say ''no 14'' as you claim.

Due to chat he was just raging after the send was made, no clue why, since he agreed to send 14 at first and then he after couple of minutes just said (29:04 / Allied) poutanesoles: l5?.

Just like when you call to send 12, blue and you say that you will stay low and ob for 10, but suddenly, even purp (EA 7/3) started to ob for 10, instead of pushing.

You see, you make some call, 1 team member follows it, others give a damn, then you change it couple of times and then you just wonder, that 1 guy stops communicating, other one gives a fuck about you and third one, well dunno what actually was wrong with purp. Didnt communicate (due to replay) and then started to rage.

Some creatures just dont make sense to me.

[AmnoN]

madao-chan@Europe banned 3 days for refusal to cooperate/ forcing send. The game is a fluid one and things can change, especially after seeing units in arena. Red ignored purple early on for no reason (purple was asking about 15) and then ignored teal when player decided to send 14 regardless of team.