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Re: Is this allowed? ###2

Postby FadingSuns » Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:08 pm

If it depended on me, i would avoid clog totally. Report every clog and ban any clog, will be a hard work for mods but at least we will cut this shit for once.

We can discuss about it now that this topic is open. @lihlplayers

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Re: Is this allowed? ###2

Postby KiwiLeKiller » Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:19 pm

It's already taking mods 3 weeks to review 1 single vouch request, not talking about when there is multiple ones pending :D

I highly doubt you could do that :P
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Re: Is this allowed? ###2

Postby bezdak » Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:22 pm

Cryptonox wrote:Maybe selling value pre 11 should be always allowed but selling value after 11 would be always forbidden unless it is to build better hold ?

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Re: Is this allowed? ###2

Postby BoretkPanda » Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:44 pm

bezdak wrote:
Cryptonox wrote:Maybe selling value pre 11 should be always allowed but selling value after 11 would be always forbidden unless it is to build better hold ?

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Re: Is this allowed? ###2

Postby Meshtar » Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:51 pm

Kinda agree with Kiwi tbh, mods are generally slow with rulings and decisions that take time such as vouch requests and game reviewing etc, which is understandable ofc, but this would swamp them with unvouch requests as people would still try to pull off clogs and then argue how they didn't really wanna clog which would lead to drama and broad discussions etc. Clog needs to be fixed by making it much less viable strategy which was discussed in that topic some time ago, not by putting so much burden onto mods and making them rule by case. Until that happens @Broud3r :D we have to make do with rules that we can easily tell if they are broken.

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Re: Is this allowed? ###2

Postby KiwiLeKiller » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:23 pm

Cryptonox wrote:Maybe selling value pre 11 should be always allowed but selling value after 11 would be always forbidden unless it is to build better hold ?

I think I would replace 11 with arena, so it would go like this :

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Do not sell value after arena in order to leak more.

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Re: Is this allowed? ###2

Postby Beastman » Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:18 am

This thread is so long. @hazardous- on clog level can u sell 200 and save 200 or no? pls elaborate. thanks buddy

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Re: Is this allowed? ###2

Postby TinSoldier » Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:31 pm

https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=9834593

so whats the point of this discussion when this kind of clog can still be done? 90+ leaks to the king, demons and krakkens are too far out of range to even hit the king and this is supposedly "legit".

Holding 200 gold to clog... is completely disgusting if we want to crack down on clog/abusing game mechanics.

"you cannot hold any gold with the purpose of clogging on a race level" makes more sense than "u can hold up to 200g" because why would we promote clog

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Re: Is this allowed? ###2

Postby BoretkPanda » Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:50 pm

Kiwi wrote:
Cryptonox wrote:Maybe selling value pre 11 should be always allowed but selling value after 11 would be always forbidden unless it is to build better hold ?

I think I would replace 11 with arena, so it would go like this :

Code: Select all

Do not sell value after arena in order to leak more.

@HazarDous @MickeyTheMousie @n1ll3 @FadingSuns
TO BE IMPLEMENTED ASAP ???????



we need this

srsly clog is so boring and lame and i really dont play ltd for that much competetive to ignore fun fact

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Re: Is this allowed? ###2

Postby HazarDous » Thu Sep 28, 2017 6:25 pm

Removing the part of the rule(s) which allow you to sell 200g and keep 200g is probably a step in the right direction to nerf clogging, but don't think it will remove it entirely because it won't.

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Kiwi wrote:
Cryptonox wrote:Maybe selling value pre 11 should be always allowed but selling value after 11 would be always forbidden unless it is to build better hold ?

I think I would replace 11 with arena, so it would go like this :

Code: Select all

Do not sell value after arena in order to leak more.

@HazarDous @MickeyTheMousie @n1ll3 @FadingSuns
TO BE IMPLEMENTED ASAP ???????


I think I would rather agree with cryp (pre level 11).

What if East team has no wood, no suicide, and no holder 16-17. Should they be allowed to sell value to leak level 11 and force a 15 send?

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Re: Is this allowed? ###2

Postby KiwiLeKiller » Thu Sep 28, 2017 6:59 pm

HazarDous wrote:Removing the part of the rule(s) which allow you to sell 200g and keep 200g is probably a step in the right direction to nerf clogging, but don't think it will remove it entirely because it won't.

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Kiwi wrote:
Cryptonox wrote:Maybe selling value pre 11 should be always allowed but selling value after 11 would be always forbidden unless it is to build better hold ?

I think I would replace 11 with arena, so it would go like this :

Code: Select all

Do not sell value after arena in order to leak more.

@HazarDous @MickeyTheMousie @n1ll3 @FadingSuns
TO BE IMPLEMENTED ASAP ???????


I think I would rather agree with cryp (pre level 11).

What if East team has no wood, no suicide, and no holder 16-17. Should they be allowed to sell value to leak level 11 and force a 15 send?

They can split for that. Selling would only allow more clogging, even though it is not the real intention of the player at the moment of the selling.
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