game outcome nulled

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game outcome nulled

Postby eldryan » Tue May 21, 2013 10:31 am

in LIHL11j, the etiquette for LIHL was breached and a player didn't draw after a dc in a 3v3. Obviously, this absolutely fucked the team of 2 on lvl 20. The player's excuse was he'd drawn earlier that day, and wanted the Win against an easy 3v2. He was the only one who wanted....

If he has a problem with Disconnects, he should bring it up here, not draw it and violate etiquette. If this game would be annulled, it'd help even the standings and remove this not-quite-cheating result.

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Re: game outcome nulled

Postby bit » Tue May 21, 2013 10:37 am

http://s11.entgaming.net/replay/view_re ... 406337.w3g

We will look into it. Thanks for reporting. Let's keep this topic polite guys.
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Re: game outcome nulled

Postby Furbolg. » Tue May 21, 2013 10:43 am

So the question is, is any leave from any team, at any time = autodraw? If that is the case, then I made a mistake by not drawing. But lvl 20 was 100% lost for you. 10k lumber on our team
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Re: game outcome nulled

Postby willie64 » Tue May 21, 2013 10:44 am

Losing team had one dc`d after lvl 17; normal game circumstances it was indeed a !draw (which 4 out of 5 players did btw).
Some things may apply on the decision that has been made to not draw.

Upper hand on income/value/units; losing team send on 16 resulting in no king kills(we held), resulting in the winning team saving for 20 for a 100% win (saving since start of 14). Game was set.

I did draw based on simple rules however i do not disagree on furbolgs desiscion to not draw the game. Simple fact, game was set for win on our team.

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Re: game outcome nulled

Postby Furbolg. » Tue May 21, 2013 10:50 am

I do seem a bit like a douschebag in the chatlog, need to work on that lol. But my Q is, if any leave = autodraw? If this is the case then the game should be nulled and elo reversed
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Re: game outcome nulled

Postby eldryan » Tue May 21, 2013 10:50 am

no, it wasn't. the demons go more to lowest value, if beep was actually lower then i was, he'd get 2 demons and i'd ez hold 1 side, delay dj.fm's and catch beep's side. we'd leak about 4 turtles and 1 demon to king. mayb use 1 heal. after that we have HIGHER VALUE (due to send on 16) and MORE INCOME, so we would win after 20. i also had just gotten roll of hades/ascendant, and that's obviously op for all lvls after 20. did that with income over 400g. the fact that he thought Beep was dcing not because of his ping of 3k, which is shown multiple times in chat, is still completely off-topic.

Here's the quote: viewtopic.php?f=72&t=8187

We like to have fair games. If someone DC's from the game, it is customary to !draw the game as quickly as possible (prior to lvl 20) so that we can start a new one and enjoy more fair game play. *EDIT (However, it is not viewed as customary to !draw a game after lvl 20, even with a DC)

In our continued commitment to provide the best gaming experience, we not only encourage fair game play, but there can be consequences for unfair play. Here are some of the violations that will result in being removed from the league:

Switching to merc
Refusing to !draw the game when you are the only player who has not voted
Excessive flaming, TKing, MHing, rage quitting, etc. All of ENT's LTD rules still apply in this league

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Re: game outcome nulled

Postby Furbolg. » Tue May 21, 2013 10:53 am

I was joking of cause. Anyone who says "plug" is joking. No one pulls the plug in lihl, thats common knowledge
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Re: game outcome nulled

Postby supersexyy » Tue May 21, 2013 10:55 am

Rules need to be adhered to or anarchy ensues.

I agree in some respects, I hate players who disconnect.
Seems like we need a way to punish DCs in some form?

I believe @uakf.b is the only person who can reverse ELO?
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Re: game outcome nulled

Postby eldryan » Tue May 21, 2013 10:56 am

supersexyy wrote:Rules need to be adhered to or anarchy ensues.

I agree in some respects, I hate players who disconnect.
Seems like we need a way to punish DCs in some form?


maybe just give the dc person a loss. should be noted before implemented.

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Re: game outcome nulled

Postby Furbolg. » Tue May 21, 2013 10:58 am

4 guys have 1/0, 0 income and 100 value on lvl 19. 1 gets DC. Game is drawed? Gross example but stating a point
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Re: game outcome nulled

Postby supersexyy » Tue May 21, 2013 11:00 am

Yes, though intentional PP will result in an unvouch.

I hope common sense and dignity comes into play and if a team is 99% defeated, they will volunteer to forfeit. I haven't watched the replay but I don't the game was over.
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Re: game outcome nulled

Postby eldryan » Tue May 21, 2013 11:00 am

yea. draw it. how the hell u didn't finish it before 19, with that is absurd. they'd have to have maxed king, and hacking, to live past 19 with their 120 leaks. also, your team didn't even dd. it really would've kept going....most teams dd 20 anyways.
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Re: game outcome nulled

Postby Furbolg. » Tue May 21, 2013 11:02 am

Alright. Well if thats the case, then null the elo from that game
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Re: game outcome nulled

Postby Furbolg. » Tue May 21, 2013 11:03 am

Point is winning team vs losing team and losing team gets a DC. Seems like a good way to prevent losses now and then
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Re: game outcome nulled

Postby eldryan » Tue May 21, 2013 11:04 am

Furbolg. wrote:Point is winning team vs losing team and losing team gets a DC. Seems like a good way to prevent losses now and then

well, beep had a ping of 3k that he showed....so irrelevant.


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