[DOTA] elshatalossa@europe.battle.net - Maphack

[zetimi]

Replay Link: https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=6518243
Game Name: [ENT] DotA apem euro #7
Your Warcraft III Username: triruru
Violator's Warcraft III Username: elshatalossa
Violated Rule(s): Maphack
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): 4:36, 9:54, 15:17, 16:43 and 23:16-23:36 (most important and 100% mh proof) All time are in-game timers.
Any further thoughts: The guy dewarded "impossible" observer wards that were placed by me or my teammates (Scourge) and she stuned in fog and ran away in 23:37 when she had no vision of the enemy for a long time. Strangely enough I wrote "!stats elsha" in game and it showed me he had almost 600 games on this bot, while I checked him after the game on your stats page it stated he has only 48 games, so maybe he uses other wc3 realms or something too?

1. At 4:36 in-game time, I (Leshrack) place an observer ward at sentinel bottom woods, I practicaly placed my ward when Lina didnt even had vision of me, so she absolutely couldn't know that I placed a ward there. She gains her vision of at 4:38 in-game for a brief moment (4 seconds to be exact) and I seriously doubt she looked at my inventory in those 4 sec and magicaly figured out that I have no wards left.
Anyways at 6:15 in-game time, she buys new observer and sentry wards and goes straight dewarding my bottom ward in sentinel woods that I decribed above.

2. At 9:54 in-game time Lina teleports to their middle lane for farming. Tauren was not even in her sight yet, but she already started moving away from her creep lane in case Tauren would have thrown the stun when he approaches her a second later and reveales himself. Not really a normal move when you teleport straight to creeps for farming.

3. At 15:17 in-game time, Sniper goes into middle Sentinel woods to place one of his observer wards there and Lina goes after him, tries to "justify" her possible attack on sniper, but sniper luckily stays in fog even tho Lina is really close and when he reveales himself Lina turns after him faster than a 1 second (which is impossible to turn around so fast, due to lag/delay we are facing when playing online, but possible if you are expecting that move and you press it before you see the move of the enemy happening and you could expect snipers move only if you had vision where he was = maphack) and she sees Sniper again for a super short time and of course its practicly impossible to know he warded there. Few minuts later, at 18:47 she dewards that ward.. again an almost impossible situation to know it is warded there, since we never ganked even anyone there yet..

4. At 16:43 she finishes her farming in mid lane with AA and AA continues to push a bit further, since all the lanes where pushed further that their middle lane, but Lina again magically "wants" to go bottom from their mid to avoid our gank that was prepering in sentinel woods, but as soon as she is safe and we start approaching AA, she decides to return to mid lane.. another suspicious move.

5. At 23:16 in-game time she killes the creeps in the upper sentinel woods and waits uphill to fire a dragon spell on creeps on the lower ground in middle lane and she does the spell at 23:30 and wants to get back towards sentinel base, because she thought that we would go after her at that tophill position, but when she sees (with maphack) that we went back, she immidiately returns back to her spot and she knows exactly without any observer wards when the scourge creeps will enter at her position so she prepares her stun at 23:37 in-game time (press pause at 23:37 and you will see that Lina presses stun before she gains ANY vision, all creeps were in fog) for the scourge creeps and right after the stun starts to go back towards sentinel tower AGAIN, because Ogre was already approaching her position, although of course our beloved Lina didn't had any vision of Ogre like at that creep stun she did few seconds before. This is a clear maphack situation for me, especially if you pause the game at 23:37 to see that Lina pressed stun before she had any vision. She was without any vison of creeps for 3-4 seconds, which could only explain that she maphacks if she used stun so on point.

[KinG23]

1. Nothing too suspicious here, common warding grounds.
2. Tauren was in her line of sight.
3. If Lina hacked here, I would imagine a stun to come instead of her walking past the Sniper.
4. This one is a bit suspicious.
5. Suspicious stun in the fog... creeps were in general vicinity and Lina could have just tried to get some kills before retreating.


In any case, this is not enough evidence to convince me of map hack.

[Burn]

First of all, I have to say this Lina is a decent player.

1) 4:36 He saw you ward top rune, second sentry was placed right on top of his own, probably knowing you didn't go all the way top to place a ward at top rune. The second sentry was a LITTLE bit suspicious though, I have to admit.
2) Lina saw Tauren and his spirit.
13:40 blind stun on Leshrac, even though he walked between creeps. Could be luck, but it was the correct pathing to go for any decent player.
3) She was using items and courier, and reacted late on sniper.
4) Enemies were missing from the map.
5) She was waiting uphill for heroes to come and do her combo. Creeps came instead, so she backed because enemies were missing. Allies were also coming to back her up.

There were some suspicious moments like 1) and the one at 13:40, perfect double de-ward after 33:00, but it isn't enough to warrant a ban. Also, no fog clicks.

Processing for insufficient evidence.

-Burn