[NWU] matdas and Yondaime_4th

[WayToTHeDawn]

Replay Link: http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 768730.w3g
Game Name: [ENT] NWU -sdsm #88
Your Warcraft III Username: WayToTheDawn
Violator's Warcraft III Username: matdas and Yondaime_4th
Violated Rule(s): Refused to votekick an incapable player even though warning was given that said player would not be able to contribute to a potential victory.
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): 6, 12,
Any further thoughts: You should also alert Pornhub.com to quit flaming
(12:53 / All) WayToTheDawn: ryus, ryuk, you know i'd kick a feeder for you guys

[matdas]

he was new, he wasnt feeding at the time. it wasnt until after 6 deaths (if i recall correctly) that we kicked. PS. he was a downloader: [System]: Player [Arrelaro] downloaded the map in 55.8 seconds (137.5 KB/sec).. Nor did you even communicate with him to help him:

(01:47 / Allied) Arrelaro: -pick
(01:50 / Allied) Arrelaro: help
(01:52 / Allied) Pornhub.com: dont need to rush
(01:56 / All) Pornhub.com: Wow
(01:57 / All) Pornhub.com: i knew it
(02:02 / All) Yondaime_4th: ?
(02:03 / All) Pornhub.com: Doesnt even know how to pick
(02:10 / Allied) WayToTheDawn: !votekick arre

No attempt to help him here.

(06:26 / Allied) Pornhub.com: !votekick arerl
Still didnt help him....

(12:02 / All) WayToTheDawn: !votekick arr

Still no helping him at all....

I think the admins can see where this is going. He was eventually kicked out at (18:40 / Allied) Mr.Balloon: !votekick arr when it was clear that it was hindering the game. In which case, we did kick 18:59 / All) Yondaime_4th: Player [Yondaime_4th] voted to kick player [Arrelaro]. 1 more votes are needed to pass.

(19:02 / Allied) Ryus: !yes
(19:02 / All) Yondaime_4th: A votekick against player [Arrelaro] has passed.
(19:02 / All) Yondaime_4th: Arrelaro was kicked by vote.
(19:02 / QUIT) Arrelaro: Left
(19:03 / Allied) matdas: !yes

There was no help from his team to help the downloading new player. They wanted an instant kick. We gave him the chance to play, but his team refused to give him the advice that he needed.

[matdas]

6 minutes in, half hp, creeps pushing him. caged by yama and wrekt'd by haku skills, first death, wasn't a feed death nor preventable.

11m in oro second death. was killed by haku, ita stun yama cage. not preventable. wasn't feed death.

(reminder, a little bit after this, pink (their top lane) has 5 deaths, more than double of arrello

12:48 death, cage harassed then cage + ice rain to death, not preventable imo

15 minutes, preventable death. was practically alone. First feed death.

17 minutes he was in a team fight, started to back, was unlucky that he ran into han, wasn't feed death

(reminder, 18minutes in, pink has 8 deaths, more than arrello

18:45 tries to solo vs 5 after 2 died. feed death

then kicked. He wasn't doing terrible, nor was he doing good. He was better than the average new player. He had 2 feed deaths and the last one was so obvious that he started feeding that we finally kicked. We gave him the chance to play (unlike his own team).

[Yondaime]

Rules clearly state you cannot kick a guy for being new, he was clearly new as he downloaded the map, checking the chat log you obviously didnt try to even give him some helpful advice. ENT gaming is trying to grow, we are not going to ban people for being newbies because than that will drive them away. So you lost the game okay, yeah it sucks but if you want games to go in faster we have to let more people join and play. Next time try to help him out just a bit instead of flaming him from the start.

Yondy has spoken.

[HazarDous]

(02:03 / All) Pornhub.com: Doesnt even know how to pick
(02:10 / Allied) WayToTheDawn: !votekick arre

Shouldn't votekick a new player before even trying to help him.


~6:00; Oro dies after being caged. Not really avoidable unless you play further back. He played safe since then anyway so there's no way that was volunteer.

(06:31 / Allied) WayToTheDawn: !votekick arrel
Again, illegal votekick.


~11:00; Oro dies after being caged, again. Not really avoidable either.

(12:02 / All) WayToTheDawn: !votekick arr
Another illegal votekick.


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