[DOTA] crybaby / dota / game ruining

[NiceGuy]

Replay Link: https://entgaming.net/openstats/game/7187378/
Game Name: DotA
Your Warcraft III Username: Wrecktify
Violator's Warcraft III Username: crybaby
Violated Rule(s): game ruining
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): 31-33 min (and others, but these are the main times)
Any further thoughts:

(31:34 / Allied) Wrecktify: lb
(31:34 / Allied) Wrecktify: defend
(31:48 / Allied) Wrecktify: GO
(31:49 / Allied) crybaby: keep crying
(31:51 / Allied) Wrecktify: lb go
(32:27 / Allied) crybaby: naw this pink deserves the lose
(32:44 / Allied) crybaby: !ff
(33:34 / Allied) crybaby: it fun to see pink get mad
(33:41 / Allied) crybaby: poor kid

Basically LB and pink were arguing most of the game, then when it came down to a big teamfight to defend mid rax, LB sat in fountain. I asked him to come out, and he sat in fountain and let us lose rax. He even said in chat that he wanted to see pink lose. Note that he does start playing again AFTER we lose rax, after I tell him I'm going to submit him for ban. But he'd already thrown the game by that point.

[crybaby1]

Hey Wreck, Don't understand why you complain to me for you losing. Check replay again and see I was the most contributer to the team till the end. BTW I wasn't sitting in base for rax. I was dead and started controling right after bathroom break.. so please stop complaining for you losing. If anyone was ruining it was you and pink for feeding.

[NiceGuy]

You clearly have me mixed up with someone else. I was a morphling, a hero that usually farms and avoids fights until late game, and I managed to have the most kill participation on the team (12 kills 10 assists). You had an AOE hero, which is the only reason you had any assists at all (still less than me, and less kills). Your dagon killstealing did the rest. But the rest of the game isn't even relevant. I pointed to a very specific time when you ran in circles in our base for over a full minute while they took mid rax. You explained it in chat as trying to make pink lose. You're not going to get away with some other explanation now.

[Lord-Miles]

I watched the entire replay and crybaby was your best player of the team , he were playing perfectly the whole game.

In my opinion this request should be denied.

Regards.

LordA.

[HazarDous]

@Lord-Miles

What do you base your opinion on?

(32:27 / Allied) crybaby: naw this pink deserves the lose
(32:44 / Allied) crybaby: !ff
(33:34 / Allied) crybaby: it fun to see pink get mad
(33:41 / Allied) crybaby: poor kid

Seems pretty incriminating. What happened around minute 32?

[Lord-Miles]

@Lord-Miles

What do you base your opinion on?

(32:27 / Allied) crybaby: naw this pink deserves the lose
(32:44 / Allied) crybaby: !ff
(33:34 / Allied) crybaby: it fun to see pink get mad
(33:41 / Allied) crybaby: poor kid

Seems pretty incriminating. What happened around minute 32?

In my opinion he were waiting team to defend with , you have to watch replay , he were trying his best in my opinion for the whole game.

[NiceGuy]

Waiting for the team - lol. You're obviously his friend, or you have no idea how to play dota. He played terribly all game. He went dagon to killsteal, because he was mad at pink as soon as they laned together. He even followed pink around stealing farm. He ended up with 2 deaths only because he avoided helping the team all game. I tried to be very nice and reason with him, even telling him to put pink on ignore, but he wouldn't listen. And he STILL, despite having an AOE hero, ended up with less kill participation than a morphling. That's sad, and says nothing of his refusal to defend our rax.

[BeerLord]

"You're obviously his friend, or you have no idea how to play dota. " This statement really bothers me niceguy, as it implies there is no room to disagree with you without either being dishonest biased or incompetent.
I too watched the game. Your effort was remarkable considering the play of tide and lina, and that old dota bug of leaver gold and exp that just can kill a good game.
Thrall did say in chat that lina (pink) deserved to lose, but thrall's game play was not banworthy in my opinion.
When bristle luci and warlock came to rax mid with 4 infernals, you and grey were dead, tide was in top lane, so only lina and thrall were there for defense. There was little either of them could do against that, and thrall hung back until grey respawned and then followed him into the fight. Even then, there was little that thrall and lina and veno could do against luci bristle warlock and 4 infernals. Also as soon as thrall and veno came to fight lina backed to the fountain to heal. Tide finally arrives, and thrall, veno, and lina join thefight. Tide quickly dies and the other 3 back. Of note, veno is level 13 and lina is level 14 at this time.
Centaur arrives as mid rax is killed and they all move bottom. At this point tide and morph are dead. So its thrall lina and veno against centaur bristle luci warlock and his infernals. Again, nothing they can do. Thrall hangs back, until morph respawns, then follows him into the fight.
So, in summary, where you see a "refusal" to defend rax, I see an "inability", and were I playing thrall I would have hung back as he did at that time. Admittedly, Im not a very good player, but again that is not banworthy, just frustrating at times for those of you that are elite players. Likewise, thrall's overall game play, which you are obviously unhappy with, may be a subject for debate (how to play or team or build better) but it is not game ruining and therefore is not ban worthy.
Denied. Please pm me if you have any questions.
@NiceGuy