[ID] Hoogies@useast.battle.net

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[ID] Hoogies@useast.battle.net

Postby Derrekle » Sun Oct 09, 2016 2:13 am

Replay Link: http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 433739.w3g
Game Name: [ENT] Island Defense #13
Your Warcraft III Username: Derrekle
Violator's Warcraft III Username: Hoogies
Violated Rule(s): Intentional Suicide/Feed
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): ~19:40 game time he died left of mound
Any further thoughts: This is a repost for another admin to review
He shared control with the whole lobby and said that someone had moved toward titan which then caused him to die. He was the only one to had moved his builder or any of his units at the time. What Av1oN ignored in my previous post was that hoogies said someone else did it. Isn't that a little sketchy?
I also posted in the complaint section but it was disapproved because it was "off topic". How was it off topic if I'm complaining that Av1oN didn't reply to my pm about asking to reopen the previous ban request? Oh that's right, he doesn't want his buddy to get banned but for him only to get a "warning" :D

Previous Ban Request: viewtopic.php?f=24&t=99781

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Re: [ID] Hoogies@useast.battle.net

Postby 1337hamburger » Sun Oct 09, 2016 2:33 am

Off topic:
Av1on and hoogies aren't really friends m8

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Re: [ID] Hoogies@useast.battle.net

Postby Nat » Sun Oct 09, 2016 2:43 am

@derrekle
Av1oN's decision on the previous ban request was just as good as any other admin. The death was on his own behalf, even though he tried to blame someone else for his own mistake, you can clearly see in the replay that it was his own doing. No one else had selected his builder but him. He sent the command to attack, he was the one that died it's his own fault. There was a warning issued to him fairly, any other mod would have done the same.
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Re: [ID] Hoogies@useast.battle.net

Postby Merex » Sun Oct 09, 2016 2:22 pm

@Derrekle So let's review this more in-depth then.

Around the time of the incident 19:40 (21:55-22:00 Replay Time)
-Ogre builder is smashed between his own towers.
-Someone makes an effort to try and free him
-Within that same period of time, someone initiates a control of 5+ towers and possibly his builder, trying to attack titan.
-I'm assuming Hoogies himself tried to back away to prevent being killed but it was no use anyways.
I'd also like to note that specifically in this time-frame at-least 3-4 other people are controlling catapults and issuing attacks/movements according to the DRM log so it's difficult to tell who it was.

The scenario of this in the replay itself and visual evidence is slim to an intentional suicide. Suicide is defined as a game ruining action that one takes either out of rage/salt or other ridiculous reasoning, none-the-less it was my ruling to issue but a warning to Hoogies for careless playing more-so than actual suicide because he has 1,000 games and shared control to 6+ people with the intent. the titan was new and they could kill him off with catapults.

As for your suspicion in the chatlog -
Spoiler!
(22:01 / All) Hoogies: who controled
(22:02 / All) Hoogies: ?
(22:05 / Allied) Senza: ALWL
(22:08 / All) Zebro: WOW
(22:08 / All) Derrekle: op ogre
(22:09 / All) Hoogies: i shared with like whole fking lobby
(22:09 / All) Hoogies: zz
(22:10 / Allied) Senza: Hoogies
(22:13 / All) Zebro: who sui him
(22:13 / All) Hoogies: to control towers
(22:14 / All) Hoogies: not me
(22:20 / Allied) Hoogies: warmonger
(22:22 / Allied) Hoogies: just sui

How does this prove intentional suicide? Because he tells his friend to suicide and end a clearly lost game? It doesn't mean anything. He was obviously upset at him dying and wanted to next game with his friend, keep in mind that the builders were fed hundreds of gold and titan nearly died alone from a few spear throwers prior to the ogre death.

Now I'd like to remind you that Hoogies is not on my friends-list personally and the only affiliation I hold to him is through Island Defense. If you entertain the idea I would just slap a warning on a ''buddy'' then you're just incorrect. The situation here was nothing more than an unfortunate mistake which he will hold on his record should anything else of this nature pop up in the future.

Going to process this now but since you've requested another admin, I'll post this to @Haunt and whatever his input will hold, will be the final ruling.
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Re: [ID] Hoogies@useast.battle.net

Postby Haunt » Sun Oct 09, 2016 2:27 pm

hmph, will look into DRM when I get home...

Locked till that, enough offtopic as it is.

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Re: [ID] Hoogies@useast.battle.net

Postby Haunt » Sun Oct 09, 2016 5:40 pm

So, I don't really see the reason why you re-posted this, there is nothing wrong with Av1on's judgement regarding this ban request. I would have done the exact same thing.

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