[LTD] Halp

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[LTD] Halp

Postby Vendeta » Thu Jul 06, 2017 2:01 am

Replay Link: http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 541444.w3g
Game Name: [ENT] Legion TD Mega 1200+ #9
Your Warcraft III Username: Vendeta
Violator's Warcraft III Username: Halp
Violated Rule(s): Teamkill
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): From begining
Any further thoughts:
So, he ignored me from begining, and i didnt even speak. He ignored with no reason. It would be ok, if he didnt ignore red also during game. Also without any reason. Blue wasnt even talking, which made this game UNPLAYABLE. On one side, i was trying to make some calls, but he ignored me, and he made his own calls. Which resulted in dumb/broken/nofun/ruinltd game. He made super bad gaming experience for us all.

He ignored me for no reason, provocated red and ignored him after that. All in spoiler. I called 7 because we had immolation, but he wanted 8. I couldnt know that anyway, so we sent 7, since we agreed. On 8 noone agreed.

Spoiler!
(10:12 / Allied) Halp: not smart
(10:20 / Allied) Halp: 7 is fail sends
(10:24 / Allied) Halp: sigh
(10:38 / Allied) Halp: lol
(10:48 / Allied) Halp: red
(10:48 / Allied) Halp: wtf r u doing
(10:48 / Allied) Halp: !lms unk
(10:48 / Allied) Halp: makes sense
(10:54 / Allied) Halp: ur a mega player
(11:04 / Allied) Halp: i can now understand why u dont kno the game
(11:47 / All) Halp: great call right
(11:52 / All) Halp: into harlot/hydra
(11:53 / All) Halp: ^^
(12:03 / Allied) Halp: lol
(12:05 / Allied) Halp: ur not smart
(12:08 / Allied) Halp: u shuold listen to me
(12:20 / Allied) Halp: 2 on ignore
(12:21 / Allied) Halp: !ignore unk


So, when he desperatly wanted that 8 send, he just sent. Still, without my knowledge, he sends, red and blue follow him, but i didnt even know. Result was: we lost another heal for his mad send, and they lost none.

After that he just went crying on all chat since we sent 7, he wanted 8 bla bla bla. Why ignoring 2 people if u want to make calls ? Also, 3rd guy who was not ignored by him was quiet whole damn game, i tryed to comunicate with him, but he just went quiet.

Spoiler!
(17:32 / Allied) Vendeta: blue ?
(17:35 / Allied) Vendeta: did u ignore also ?
(17:39 / Allied) Vendeta: blue?


Ignoring 2 people for nothing which resulted in terrible game should be punished.

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Re: [LTD] Halp

Postby Energizer » Thu Jul 06, 2017 2:08 pm

as far as I can tell, there is no rule on ent that says you can not ignore a team mate. He followed the calls made and upgradde the king when necessary. One can argue that your calls were just as dumb, sending full 7 into a harlot holder and then sum1 else w/hydra. He made a call to send lvl 8 blue said 7+8 so you made your call to send 7 and then he made his call to send 8 (you can not say which was dumber because both failed). From what I saw, you were the only person who did not send 8 as you continued to upgrade king even after red pinged the send area. And what is a super bad gaming experience, cmon now dont be so dramatic just because you lost the game. You pushed your aqua 7/5 on lvl 6 clearly noticing you had no lvl 8 holder (you can claim ea but he was not built to hold middle) and obviously not playing for the team in this game for if you were you would have stayed 7/4 and not overpushed.

I dont think he provoked red... if anything he tried to help red at the beginning and then ignored him bc... idk... the conversation between them was going no where lol. Vendeta why are you leaving out information, is it to swing the story how you want? Thats not how a ban request works either show the entire chat log or dont show it at all. there was some minor flame going on between the two of them nothing over the top or anythin to be considered provoking as you say.

As I said previously, you called 7 into a harlot holder and a hydra who was also ob. and you claim no one agreed 8, are you being silly or you simply choose not to read/include what goes against what you want:
Spoiler!
(07:24 / Allied) meinert: na lets 7
(07:25 / Allied) Halp: if we furb comm 8 aqualeaks <---- 1 for 8
(07:26 / Allied) _GOLIATH_: +
(07:28 / Allied) Vendeta: full 7
(07:28 / Allied) Vendeta: yes
(07:33 / Allied) Halp: 7 into aqua/hydra?
(07:34 / Allied) _GOLIATH_: also it's nice if we can leak 6
(07:35 / Allied) meinert: we can 7 and 8 <---- 2 for 8
(07:40 / Allied) Vendeta: no need 8 <--- 1 against 8

So thats 2:1 for 8, and yet you claim that noone agreed and appararently you did not know, even though red pinged the send area? its not like you were afk because you were upgrading king the entire time. The call to send did not lose your team a heal, your decision to push 7/5 aqua on 6 cost your team the heal as they lost their 2nd mid for 8.

This vendeta guy really does a good job at leaving out parts of the story im impressed, but halp also doesnt know when to just bite his tongue. So this halp guy complains in all chat for sending lvl 7:

Spoiler!
(11:47 / All) Halp: great call right
(11:52 / All) Halp: into harlot/hydra
(11:53 / All) Halp: ^^
(15:57 / All) Vendeta: halp destroying game
(16:00 / All) Vendeta: hehe
(16:03 / All) gra: ty halp
(16:07 / All) Halp: ?
(16:35 / All) Halp: our 8 holder over pushed
(16:42 / All) Halp: and then he didnt control king
(16:51 / All) Halp: and called full send 7 into harlot holder
(17:00 / All) Halp: not halp fault ^^


So yea, this Halp guy just speaks too much and doesnt quite understand when to stay quiet but, nothing he did went against ent rules nor was it in any way an attempt to teamkill. and this Vendeta guy, you need to tell the entire story; ignoring team mates would be a legitimate reason to ban someone if they missed sends/solo sent/solo upgraded king but none of this occurred in this game.

For those reasons this should be denied, imo.

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Re: [LTD] Halp

Postby eternal_fame » Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:25 pm

he was controlling king. and i pinged because of purples fail tk send forcing.

also what he try to help me? he gave me wrong advice, which thankfully i didnt follow so he just ignored me.

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Re: [LTD] Halp

Postby Vendeta » Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:59 pm

@energizer
Your opinion doesnt really matters to me, but since you are trying to make me guilty for this one, without any knowledge of this game called Ltd, or even ent rules, i will respond to you.

Ignoring 2 from 3 players in your team without any reason is a form of teamkill.

I went threw your stats, and you only play in mega bot, which means you dont understand that aqua is a yolo unit, and its normal to go 7/5 on 6 if you can yolo that hard. (Np u will learn yolo one day)

For Halps ignoring 2nd guy, red, and mine "leaving out info", if you read chat, you can see that halp provocated him first, minor flame, which triggered him. He answered to halp wiht one word - "nub", after halps 10 sentences, an halp insta ignored him. Even tho he started it. Its all in chat log.

On level 8 send and my up king, we were terrible at level 10. Its why i started upping king, which was normal in that situation. You cant find one word in that chat log which can be seen as a send 8 call. Yes, blue said we could go 7+8, i said nah go only 7 and THATS IT. Noone said anything about going 8. So i continued upping king, which saved us from death on 10lvl. And u can see when someone pinged at like 00:00 on clock i said wtf u sending? Thats when u saw sends are going. What was result? Us losing heal, amd we didnt even get any sends.

Ignoring 2 people from.begining is a form of teamkill since your team cant make normal calls, cant talk about game, and its all in ent rules.

What i want to say to you, Energizer, whoever u are, first you need to read rules, and/or talk with moderators if you cant understand any. Then, u need to learn some stuff about Ltd game, if thats the game u prefer, then, and ONLY THEN, u can have credibility to talk about rules and/or gameplay in someone else's ban request.

Untill then, i have nothing else to say to you.

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Re: [LTD] Halp

Postby Energizer » Fri Jul 07, 2017 4:51 pm

@vendeta

Well I disagree with you, however, I am not going to debate this with you. I left my opinion for the mods; however, I will take into consideration what you said. Also, you should try not to belittle or talk down to people, now i understand why halp muted you when he entered the game. it also is clear that you feel your opinion is the only acceptable/correct one. Anyways, have a good day. My opinion on the issue does not change.

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Re: [LTD] Halp

Postby KiwiLeKiller » Fri Jul 07, 2017 6:12 pm

Halp ignored Vendeta while players were loading the game. He knew from lobby that Vendeta was in the same team as him since Halp joined 7/8 and Vendeta was already in the game. I wonder why he even stayed in the game if it was to make cooperating that hard within the team.

Halp also sent while not asking the team, resulting indeed in TK.
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Re: [LTD] Halp

Postby Im_Halp » Fri Jul 07, 2017 6:38 pm

Lol he actually put a ban request, what a loser. Anyways, I ignored him because we can play a game w/o talking to each other. I digress, he calls a dum send on lvl 7 and we sent, failed. I called lvl 8 send as shown above and blue agreed so i began to send 8 since i dont need to discuss a send 3 times before sending, we made call we agreed it was 2 to 1 and we sent. Vendeta doesnt send w/team although red pinged and if you claim you cant see the brown dots in send area ur playing urself. My 8 send failed because teal decided to put 400 lumber into king and not send w/team. Also, dont speak foolish a 7/5 push is an over push when ur the holder on 8. Nothing i did was to teamkill thats laughable if anyone believes that. Anyways lets get this nonsense denied please its a joke that this guy seriously put this up. And boi stop tellin part of the story ur becoming a joke 100% (if ur not there already)

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Re: [LTD] Halp

Postby matdas » Sun Jul 23, 2017 1:26 am

A warning ban on on halp


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