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[LTD] slim.shady@useast.battle.net

Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 7:52 pm
by Vincentow
Replay Link: http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 371106.w3g
Game Name: [ENT] Legion TD Mega #48
Your Warcraft III Username: vincentow
Violator's Warcraft III Username: slim.shady
Violated Rule(s): 2 solo send at level 1 and arena
Time of Violation (in-game or replay):
(02:20 / Allied) slim.shady: i asked send?
(02:46 / Allied) slim.shady: if you're silent i assume you agree
(21:25 / Allied) slim.shady: i send arena to make use of my 7/8
Any further thoughts:

Complain about this topic : viewtopic.php?f=24&t=110729&p=435233&hilit=vincentow#p435233

I was exasperated by his attitude so I preferred to mute him with a ent command "!ignore <player>".

I didn't solo send 14 and we couldn't send level 17 for many reasons ingame, we were the first to plan this :

(27:21 / Allied) orion: go 14
(27:22 / Allied) Vincentow: send 14
(27:25 / Allied) slim.shady: go 17
(27:36 / Allied) orion: 14 and 17

(27:42 / Allied) slim.shady: only 16
(27:43 / Allied) slim.shady: 17*
(27:51 / Allied) slim.shady: 14 is tk
(27:59 / Allied) slim.shady: if we go for no leaks
(28:01 / Allied) slim.shady: they ez die
(28:05 / Allied) slim.shady: and have no lumber to send 17
(29:05 / Allied) slim.shady: fucking stupid
(29:20 / Allied) slim.shady: no leaks
(29:21 / Allied) slim.shady: lel
(29:27 / Allied) slim.shady: its crazy
(29:29 / Allied) slim.shady: how easy
(29:31 / Allied) slim.shady: we throw this game

nobody answered during his call, so we sent 14.

I have continue to send 25 until 27 because it was better for the situation/plan, nobody denied about that (except purple), and i have kept my wood for 31

He has to bypass a ban in his favor, that's why he wrote this post despite being won the game by having different thoughts.
He was toxic, I muted it prematurely and he wrote this post by forgetting this.

Re: [LTD] slim.shady@useast.battle.net

Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 8:03 pm
by Vincentow
"Banned 7 days for solo sending + refusing to cooperate/communicate, he's done it again recently" - by Albi

Sorry but what i did again recently ?

Re: [LTD] slim.shady@useast.battle.net

Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 8:39 pm
by Kreutertee
I am the real slim.shady.

As you can clearly see, he's making up his own story here. Trying to turn facts in his favor.

He accusing me of solo send, which it was not in my opinion. I always communicated, explained my moves. If noone responds, I assume they agree.

Regarding sends in round 1
I asked for warriors in 1. Noone answered. I waited 10 seconds, then made a call. If people don't answer, they (in my experience) usually have no opinion and just follow or silently agree and follow anyway.
I then waited 1-2 more seconds and sent my warriors. And called my team to send. They all had a chance to still hop in, quite a few seconds left on the clock, but they decided to not and then blame me more afterwards in a very toxic way.
(01:09 / Allied) slim.shady: want warriors?
(01:19 / Allied) slim.shady: warriors then
(01:22 / Allied) slim.shady: send
(01:28 / Allied) slim.shady: send
(01:31 / Allied) slim.shady: wtf
(01:33 / Allied) orion: no
(01:34 / Allied) orion: wtf
(01:38 / Allied) orion: why u go solo??????
(01:40 / Allied) orion: retardf
(01:42 / Allied) slim.shady: i didnt go solo
(01:43 / Allied) slim.shady: i asked
(01:45 / Allied) slim.shady: no one answered
(01:48 / Allied) Vincentow: reported


Ok, I tried to take the heat out of it and explain myself
(02:17 / Allied) slim.shady: ok guys, no hate
(02:17 / Allied) orion: noob
(02:18 / Allied) slim.shady: but
(02:20 / Allied) slim.shady: i asked send?
(02:22 / Allied) slim.shady: no one answer
(02:24 / Allied) slim.shady: then i make a call
(02:29 / Allied) slim.shady: still noone answer
(02:33 / Allied) slim.shady: i assume you all on board
(02:46 / Allied) slim.shady: if you're silent i assume you agree
(02:48 / Allied) slim.shady: easy as that


Then without further due, vincentow starts to votekick me and ignore me afterwards.

Regarding sends in arena
I tried everything to communicate and make the game work. But it's hard if one of them ignores me and his buddy, who apparently didn't ignore, still doesn't talk. How is that my fault?

Well, I called my move, since I pushed high lumber, i waited 14 seconds to confirm, I then waited again some more time and started sending arena.
(21:25 / Allied) slim.shady: i send arena to make use of my 7/8
(21:39 / Allied) slim.shady: ok
(23:02 / Allied) orion: u like solo send?
(23:09 / Allied) slim.shady: i announce it twice
(23:12 / Allied) slim.shady: noone said anything

Red then just answers after I sent to call me solo sending? No sir, it doesn't work that way.

Vincentow wrote:I didn't solo send 14 and we couldn't send level 17 for many reasons ingame, we were the first to plan this :
[...]
nobody answered during his call, so we sent 14.

There were no reasons not to go only 17, and doesn't even care to elaborate on it. Just making false claims here now, twisting reality. He even posted my part himself, where I explain and try to talk about strategy. But he ignores me, red doesn't talk and then does his own thing.

Vincentow wrote:I have continue to send 25 until 27 because it was better for the situation/plan, nobody denied about that (except purple), and i have kept my wood for 31

That's a blunt lie. Teal objected heavily, we both talked ingame, he pinged, nothing. All ignored by him doing his own thing.

He calling me toxic? Please read the chatlog and make up your own mind.

Peace.

Re: [LTD] slim.shady@useast.battle.net

Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 8:54 pm
by Vincentow
If you had watched the scoreboard you could not send level 1 in the sight of a cross. I went to lumb which costs wood and the builder can not whisp at the start. So we were 2 to not be able to send level 1 if you had experience ...

You sent arena solo that's why u didn't want to sent 14 with us.

You still try to justify yourself

Re: [LTD] slim.shady@useast.battle.net

Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 9:02 pm
by Kreutertee
I'm not justifying anything. I was merely stating the facts and tried very hard to play in team. But if you don't talk all game, votekick-abuse me, even ignore me then and last but not least doing your own thing without communicating, I'm sorry sir, but your bubble needs to be burst here. You can't and won't blame this on me.

And trying to get me banned for your toxicity and unwillingness to play in team is a very poor move.

@Albi or other mods, I've said what I have to say, feel free to lock and rule as u seem fit.

Cheers

Re: [LTD] slim.shady@useast.battle.net

Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 9:43 pm
by IamHodor
Kreutertee should be a free guy

Re: [LTD] slim.shady@useast.battle.net

Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 9:49 pm
by Vincentow
What an Angel lol
I just totally don't agree about thé story you are telling after playing with you and how you describe me in this game
What à toxic player you are

Re: [LTD] slim.shady@useast.battle.net

Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 9:54 pm
by Vincentow
You made me cry lol

Re: [LTD] slim.shady@useast.battle.net

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 5:44 pm
by Jabba41
@bezdak Would like to hear your input on this case, PM me your findings or tell me in discord and I unlock the topic again :)

Re: [LTD] slim.shady@useast.battle.net

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 8:24 pm
by bezdak
I'd say lvl 1 was not rly solo send and he explained it pretty good... Nobody was saying anything against it, so he made a call. Arena send was a solo send, but from the game perspective it was actually a good play to go 7/8 and send for income in his case... And again, noone did react to this move. Therefore i would deny this request.

Regarding the complaint, you should do an appeal - it's completely irrelevant to put it into brq, however here's my view on it also:
Vincentow wrote:...He was toxic, I muted it prematurely...

This is straight up a lie. He (very politely - props for that) tried to explain himself and you were aggressively insulting him for no reason. There was absolutely no reason to ignore him at this point. Ignoring teal was also ridiculously harsh, however since he was insulting you, this one was more acceptable. Since this is not a rule violation, let's move on:

After that you started VK, also for pretty much no reason, you should be happy you got away with it since Albi did not include this violation in your ban. Even if he straight up solo sent a dino without a word, it is still not a reason to vk.
Spoiler!
Do not abuse !votekick: its only purpose is to kick game ruinners who violate ENT's rules and negatively impact the game for either or both teams in the game.


It's very obvious you and red were on VoIP together. Teal made a call to go 5, which you absolutely ignored and without a word forced a lvl 3 send.

After that there comes the second vk abuse. Not much to say there.

I would agree with you on lvl 14 call - even tho it was an awful call and you'd most likely won 17, teal did not react to purp's call and you had a majority, so this was not against the rules.

After that you totally refused to communicate or cooperate (and you knew what's going on since red did not ignore anyone).
Vincentow wrote:...nobody denied about that (except purple)...

Another lie. Both teal and purp were heavily against your solo sending.

You should take the ban you got, because i would add 1-2 days for vk abuse also. Both reasons for ban that Albi states were legit.

Re: [LTD] slim.shady@useast.battle.net

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 10:05 pm
by Jabba41
@bezdak good review

Denied.