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jwiggle911

Postby Siberic » Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:41 pm

Link: https://entgaming.net/customstats/legio ... e/9496548/
Game: HELLHALT TD v4.0.5.10
Your in-game name: Siberic
Violator's name: jwiggle911
Violated Rule(s): Game Ruin. Did not build any towers.
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): 00:00:00
Did not like the mode, which was "-prac". He didn't want to leave and at some point told the other team they get an easy win this way. I tried to votekick him, but yellow (Deniska123) didn't vote.Attached is the replay.
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Re: jwiggle911

Postby Quentin » Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:49 pm

You need to upload the ent link of the game.
Please use the template to make a clear request.

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Re: jwiggle911

Postby Siberic » Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:21 pm

Ok, it took me a while to find it, but I uploaded it.

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Re: jwiggle911

Postby Unitil » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:36 am

Below is my personal opinion based on the claims above, and what i've found using DRM and watching the replay.
Game Ruin:
Spoiler!
Watching the replay, and reading the chat logs shows intent on not building the entire game.

Chat logs (small snippet of of messages):

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2:53    [All] Siberic: didn't build, because of mode
2:57    [All] Siberic: casted rage
3:05    [All] Siberic: ruins the whole game
3:06    [All] LaoLaoLao93: Lol
3:13    [All] LaoLaoLao93: did red announce it?
3:18    [All] jwiggle911: nope
3:20    [All] Siberic: don't remember
3:36    [All] Siberic: he could at least try to play, right?
3:44    [All] LaoLaoLao93: yeah
3:54    [All] LaoLaoLao93: kinda immature buddy
4:03    [All] jwiggle911: i know
4:10    [All] jwiggle911: but i only have time for a game and pr takes too long
4:14    [All] jwiggle911: so i'd rather have it ender


Enticing team to not kick for free win:

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7:20    [All] jwiggle911: u guys can get a freee win
7:23    [All] jwiggle911: if u dont kick me lol

Vote-kick:
There were a number of vote kicks established that did not go through due to one vote missing.
Spoiler!
The first failed due to needing more details.

Second Vote-kick attempt:

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4:40    [All] Siberic: still note building
4:43    [All] Siberic: not*
4:52    [All] miket1887: yea look what he just said
4:56    [All] miket1887: he aint gonna build all game
5:04    [All] Siberic: so vote him out!
5:18    [Allies] Siberic: !votekick jwiggle911
5:18    [All] Deniska123: Type !yes to vote.
5:18    [All] Deniska123: ** Note: !votekick should only be used to kick players breaking a rule. You should not votekick players new to the game!
5:18    [All] LaoLaoLao93: !votekick Jwiggle
5:20    [Allies] LaoLaoLao93: !yes
5:20    [All] Deniska123: Player [LaoLaoLao93] voted to kick player [jwiggle911]. 3 more votes are needed to pass.
5:22    [All] turkishblood94: !yes
5:22    [All] Deniska123: Player [turkishblood94] voted to kick player [jwiggle911]. 2 more votes are needed to pass.
5:22    [Allies] miket1887: !yes
5:22    [All] Deniska123: Player [miket1887] voted to kick player [jwiggle911]. 1 more votes are needed to pass.

Vote failed due to no vote from Deniska123

Third Vote-kick attempt:

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7:02    [All] turkishblood94: !votekick jwi
7:02    [All] Deniska123: A votekick against player [jwiggle911] has been started by player [turkishblood94]. 4 votes are needed within 60 seconds to pas
7:02    [All] Deniska123: Type !yes to vote.
7:02    [All] Deniska123: ** Note: !votekick should only be used to kick players breaking a rule. You should not votekick players new to the game!
7:04    [All] turkishblood94: !yes
7:06    [Allies] Siberic: !yes
7:06    [All] Deniska123: Player [Siberic] voted to kick player [jwiggle911]. 3 more votes are needed to pass.
7:09    [Allies] miket1887: !yes\
7:11    [All] turkishblood94: !yes
7:12    [Allies] miket1887: !yes
7:12    [All] Deniska123: Player [miket1887] voted to kick player [jwiggle911]. 2 more votes are needed to pass.
7:16    [All] LaoLaoLao93: !yes
7:16    [All] Deniska123: Player [LaoLaoLao93] voted to kick player [jwiggle911]. 1 more votes are needed to pass.

Vote failed due to no vote from Deniska123


Game Mode - Failure to announce:
As this whole situation came up due to the game mode I have put the details regarding that below.
Spoiler!
Lobby chat: Does not display game mode intent

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[System]: *** player [Deniska123] has joined the game
[System]: [Deniska123@useast.battle.net] has played 35 Legion TD HELL games here (ELO: 939.14). W/L: 10/25.
[System]: Waiting for 5 more players before the game will automatically start. (www.entgaming.net)
[System]: *** player [turkishblood94] has joined the game
[System]: [turkishblood94@server.eurobattle.net] has played 51 Legion TD HELL games here (ELO: 1015.26). W/L: 24/27.
[System]: Spoof check accepted for [turkishblood94] on server [server.eurobattle.net].
[System]: Waiting for 4 more players before the game will automatically start. (www.entgaming.net)
[System]: Waiting for 4 more players before the game will automatically start. (www.entgaming.net)
[System]: Waiting for 4 more players before the game will automatically start. (www.entgaming.net)
[System]: Waiting for 4 more players before the game will automatically start. (www.entgaming.net)
[System]: *** player [jwiggle911] has joined the game
[System]: [jwiggle911@useast.battle.net] has played 345 Legion TD HELL games here (ELO: 1373.37). W/L: 161/184.
[System]: *** player [Siberic] has joined the game
[System]: [Siberic@europe.battle.net] has played 40 Legion TD HELL games here (ELO: 993.06). W/L: 20/20.
[System]: Waiting for 2 more players before the game will automatically start. (www.entgaming.net)
[jwiggle911]: !scores
[Siberic]: !scores
[System]: Waiting for 2 more players before the game will automatically start. (www.entgaming.net)
[System]: ANNOUNCEMENT: You can now select your desired hosting location(Atlanta, Chicago, Germany)! Check http://goo.gl/lpbZX9
[System]: *** player [miket1887] has joined the game
[System]: [miket1887@uswest.battle.net] has played 1 Legion TD HELL games here (ELO: 1010.06). W/L: 1/0.
[System]: *** player [StarkerSpieler] has joined the game
[System]: [StarkerSpieler@uswest.battle.net] has played 26 Legion TD HELL games here (ELO: 1136.54). W/L: 18/8.
[System]: Players not yet spoof checked: miket1887, StarkerSpieler
[System]: Waiting to start until players have been pinged: miket1887, StarkerSpieler
[System]: *** player [StarkerSpieler] has left the game (has left the game voluntarily)
[System]: Waiting for 1 more players before the game will automatically start. (www.entgaming.net)
[System]: *** player [LaoLaoLao93] has joined the game
[System]: [LaoLaoLao93@uswest.battle.net] has played 97 Legion TD HELL games here (ELO: 1205.86). W/L: 63/34.
[System]: Players not yet spoof checked: miket1887, LaoLaoLao93
[System]: Waiting to start until players have been pinged: LaoLaoLao93
[LaoLaoLao93]: !scores
[System]: Players not yet spoof checked: LaoLaoLao93
[System]: Waiting to start until players have been pinged: LaoLaoLao93
[System]: Players not yet spoof checked: LaoLaoLao93
[System]: Waiting to start until players have been pinged: LaoLaoLao93
[System]: 10. . .
[System]: 9. . .
[System]: 8. . .
[System]: 7. . .
[System]: 6. . .
[System]: 5. . .
[System]: 4. . .
[System]: 3. . .
[System]: 2. . .
[System]: 1. . .
[System]: *** player [LaoLaoLao93] has left the game (has left the game voluntarily)
[System]: *** player [turkishblood94] has left the game (has left the game voluntarily)
[System]: *** player [miket1887] has left the game (has left the game voluntarily)
[System]: *** player [jwiggle911] has left the game (has left the game voluntarily)
[System]: *** player [Siberic] has left the game (has left the game voluntarily)
[System]: *** player [Deniska123] has left the game (has left the game voluntarily)

In-game chat for mode select:

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0:03    [Allies] turkishblood94: -prac


Failure to announce non-default game mode confirmed



Concluding Thoughts:
jwiggle911
Even though the game mode was not default, refusing to participate/build is intentional game ruin/team kill and is against the rules.

Deniska123
Missing a vote-kick to kick a game ruiner is against the rules.

turkishblood94
Failure to notify the pre-game lobby of your non-default game mode choice is against the rules. Sometimes missing this announcement can cause people to do what you have seen in this game.

Rules broken during this game:

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jwiggle911
• Do not ruin the game on purpose:Do not go away from keyboard for an excessive amount of time, especially without telling other players beforehand, and/or refuse to play the game in an attempt to ruin it. Neither are you allowed to grief by resetting the afk timer.

Deniska123
• If a votekick is initiated to kick a visible game ruiner, all players are obligated to !yes.

turkishblood94
• When using a mode other than the default one, the mode setter (red) has to announce it in the lobby before the game starts. Every player must be informed, so they have the opportunity to leave in case of dislike.

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Re: jwiggle911

Postby bezdak » Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:50 am

@Unitil very well done.

User Deniska123 banned for not kicking the game ruiner, 1 day.
User turkishblood94 banned for not announcing non-default mode, 12 hours.
User jwiggle911 banned for intentional team killing, 5 days (considered the fact that he was given no chance to leave).

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