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[DOTA] aja17@useast, duckman420@uswest

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:00 pm
by Essenze
Replay Link: https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=9520934
Game Name: [ENT] DotA apem us/ca #12
Your Warcraft III Username: ihopewelose
Violator's Warcraft III Username: aja17, duckman420
Violated Rule(s): Griefing/Refusal to defend/Noob items
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): 43 minutes for aja17, entire game for duckman420
Any further thoughts:
-aja17 (SB) refused to defend at 43-44 saying ''bye all''.
-duckman420 had horrible build as sniper (euls, dagger, ghost) for 95% of the game. He had ~20 damage late game and was literally useless.
We needed his damage, obviously, but wouldn't do anything about it. Despite his horrible build, he isn't stupid and knows proper english. Let's not forget that guy also has 300 elo account that is purposely low.

The main purpose of this ban request is for our SB that refused to defend.
Thanks.

Re: [DOTA] aja17@useast, duckman420@uswest

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:21 pm
by nitromon
Well SB confirmed in chat, but I didn't watch replay:
(46:38 / Allied) aja17: bye all
(46:47 / Allied) aja17: sniper super item
(47:25 / Allied) Dreamworld: 'guys just bait
(47:26 / Allied) ihopewelose: charge
(47:29 / Allied) ihopewelose: you are banned
(47:29 / Allied) ihopewelose: sb
(47:30 / Allied) aja17: no play
(47:33 / Allied) ihopewelose: fuck you
(47:34 / Allied) ihopewelose: banned

But game ended 1 min later:
(48:29 / All) MlkMassa123: This game was hosted by GHost++

So iono about that one.

As far as Duckman420 is concerned, you can't really ban someone for unique builds. Looks like he's going for ultra fast and escape build, probably got harassed all game?

Interestingly, the Scourges had a discussion on this:
(21:09 / Allied) Dreamworld: sniper euls
(21:09 / Allied) whoshotya-: sniper eils
(21:13 / Allied) Dreamworld: lmfao
(21:15 / Allied) WhyYouDead: he scared
(21:29 / Allied) Dreamworld: i mean
(21:35 / Allied) Dreamworld: it removes track instantly
(21:56 / Allied) WhyYouDead: and saves him while bara charges
(22:09 / Allied) Dreamworld: bara is on his team
(22:19 / Allied) Dreamworld: what a moot point
(22:19 / Allied) Dreamworld: then
(22:20 / Allied) WhyYouDead: he uses it on himself
(22:25 / Allied) WhyYouDead: n bara charges who attacking

Actually, euls + blink is one of the best escape defenses out there. While you eul, shift+click with blink and get out.

I'm not sure he is the same guy with the 300 elo account, though I did play with that Duckman before. In that game, the guy was just terrible, but had decent build.

Good luck!

Re: [DOTA] aja17@useast, duckman420@uswest

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:36 pm
by Essenze
His build might be unique but literally useless during fights since he's done no damage. We NEEDED dmg and he knew that. He plays better than that usually, so to me he was just trolling (on purpose).
Sb and I could of attempted to save rax or gain time but refused to do anything and stayed fountain.

Re: [DOTA] aja17@useast, duckman420@uswest

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:38 pm
by Essenze
Additionally our sb was super aggressive entire game but decided to not do anything to save our top rax.

Re: [DOTA] aja17@useast, duckman420@uswest

Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:13 am
by Merex
Bara banned.

We don't ban item builds. His is just unique to escaping, seems perfectly fine to me regardless of lack of damage.