2nd opinion

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2nd opinion

Postby NJELRC » Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:29 pm

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Any further thoughts: Hi can another mod have a look at this brq please viewtopic.php?f=24&t=123042
as its very straight forward and what dreadeasy is simply not true.
also have been receiving messages from the violator ill show below

HAHA GET DENIED BITCH

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Sent: Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:21 am
From: killerblade
Recipient: NJELRC
HAHAHA I TOLD YOU NO ONE IS GONNA GET BANNED RETARD HAHAHAHA

This shows exactly what type of player he is, also is there anyway of posting the complaint i orignally posted here on this thread as its more detailed about everything thanks.

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Re: 2nd opinion

Postby Daisy » Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:56 pm

maybe you add the rule about votekicks here

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Do not spam or randomly start !votekicks, do not !votekick to avoid being kicked, and do not !votekick without proper reasons. Votekicks are ban-able even if they are not passed since negative intentions can still be assessed and misusing it can lead others to misuse it. Kicks and bans are enforced based on how severe the rule has been violated. ENT keeps the right to enforce punishments as warning.


Play NewNaab started votekick for no legal reason
killerblade yesed the illegal votekick attemb

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03:37 / Allied) NewNaab: !votekick natt
(03:37 / All) DeadManWalking: A votekick against player [Nattyc] has been started by player [NewNaab]. 7 votes are needed within 60 seconds to pass.
(03:37 / All) DeadManWalking: Type !yes to vote.
(03:37 / All) DeadManWalking: ** Note: !votekick should only be used to kick players breaking a rule. You should not votekick players new to the game!
(03:40 / Allied) Nattyc: !timestamp
(03:40 / All) killerblade: !yes
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Re: 2nd opinion

Postby Essenze » Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:15 pm

Let's start with the abuse of VK:

(03:37 / Allied) NewNaab: !votekick natt
(03:37 / All) DeadManWalking: A votekick against player [Nattyc] has been started by player [NewNaab]. 7 votes are needed within 60 seconds to pass.
(03:37 / All) DeadManWalking: Type !yes to vote.
(03:37 / All) DeadManWalking: ** Note: !votekick should only be used to kick players breaking a rule. You should not votekick players new to the game!
(03:40 / Allied) Nattyc: !timestamp
(03:40 / All) killerblade: !yes
(03:40 / All) DeadManWalking: Player [killerblade] voted to kick player [Nattyc]. 6 more votes are needed to pass.
(03:40 / Allied) NewNaab: kick trash
(03:43 / All) Nattyc: will be posted
(03:53 / All) killerblade: sry
(03:53 / All) NewNaab: fuckin ruiner ax

No where Axe ruined the game in any way, therefore the VK is invalid as well of abused.

Now the toxicity:

(03:40 / Allied) NewNaab: kick trash
(03:53 / All) NewNaab: fuckin ruiner ax
(05:26 / All) NewNaab: gg axe noob + tech 2v5
(18:08 / All) NewNaab: gg trash team
(18:16 / All) NewNaab: 0 support here and shity axe
(18:55 / All) NewNaab: fuckin solo axe
(21:56 / All) killerblade: newnaab banned
(22:05 / All) killerblade: Fucking bitch
(22:05 / All) NewNaab: suck my ballls trash
(24:14 / All) NewNaab: here no ban noob
(24:20 / All) NewNaab: this is trash server..
(33:02 / All) NewNaab: i will buy gem for you
(33:13 / All) NewNaab: fuckin tech failed pick
(35:20 / Allied) Nattyc: pink u gonna help team?
(35:25 / Allied) NewNaab: no
(35:45 / Allied) Nattyc: k well u been warned

(38:10 / All) NewNaab: fuckin uselss tech
(39:07 / All) NewNaab: tech fuckin useelss hero

DreadEasy:

Only 1 vote kick was made with no one saying !yes or processed.

It looks like both parties in this situation show great toxicity to each other and teammates.


@DreadEasy
-As you can see, killerblade voted !yes so ''no one saying !yes'' is invalid.
-So you think that people must vote in order to consider the VK as abuse? It was started with no legit reason...
-''Both parties'' more like NewNaab & killerblade constantly flaming and in 98% of it, Nattyc wasn't even involved and simply warned them that their behavior will get them banned.

To me, there's no such thing as amount of abused votekicks to be ban-worthy. If one was started without reason, it IS abuse. The player should receive sanction, same goes for the voter.
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Re: 2nd opinion

Postby Jabba41 » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:03 pm

it's up to the mods judgement and the circumstances if he gives out warnings for such cases or not.

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