[LTD] LionuK@europe.battle.net

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[LTD] LionuK@europe.battle.net

Postby amizoo » Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:23 am

Replay Link: https://entgaming.net/customstats/legio ... /10693986/
Game Name: [ent] legion td mega #53
Your Warcraft III Username: amizoo
Violator's Warcraft III Username: LionuK
Violated Rule(s): Vote kick abuse
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): On lvl 9
Any further thoughts:

Moreover, LionuK himself and other team members refused to kick a solo sender in my team, even after it was explained solo sending is violating ENT rules. Funny thing is that Lionuk said "it is auto send mode" when I tried to kick out the solo sender but it was not. And Lionuk abused votekick when I mentioned refusing to kick out solo sender is also banable.

Recently, ENT games are ruined by a number of newbies who do not respect the ent rules. Please, ban LionuK to let him understand the ent rules.

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Re: [LTD] LionuK@europe.battle.net

Postby Ochez » Wed Apr 25, 2018 4:52 pm

Why should new players get a ban right away for a mistake? That would just scare them away. I also noticed that you and LionuK were beeing toxic towards eachother and other teammates which creates a negative experience for the others. You also happened to threaten alot with lines where you mention ban/banned alot. LionuK did not participate in the vote against the solo sender which is a violation of the rules, but neither did the rest except pink. LionuK should be banned for the way you got kicked. There were no grounds as to why you should`ve been kicked.

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-Do not deceive players about rules in an attempt to get them banned/to force them to do something they are not obligated to. For example, telling users to draw or they would get banned is deceiving as drawing is a mere vote and not mandatory.
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Re: [LTD] LionuK@europe.battle.net

Postby Stiff_Maistar » Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:01 am

@Amizoo Next time dont spam "noob" when you dont like what others are building. The LTD mega bot is a bot where new players can learn how to play. Even tho he was solo sending, you never told him to not solo send.

Also you knew, or should have known he was a new player when he joined the lobby:
Spoiler!
[System]: *** player [amizoo] has joined the game
[System]: [amizoo@useast.battle.net] has played 346 Legion TD Mega games here (ELO: 1192.29). W/L: 194/152.
[System]: Waiting for 6 more players before the game will automatically start. (http://www.entgaming.net)
[System]: *** player [FrankCastl3] has joined the game
[System]: [FrankCastl3@europe.battle.net] hasn't played any games of the specified type here.
[System]: Player [FrankCastl3] downloaded the map in 5.4 seconds (322.4 KB/sec).

Back to the BRQ (Only reviewed to lvl 10):
Lionuk isnt a new player, he has over 400 games at LTD Hell so he should know the rules aswell. He also show in his LTD Hell games that he can save with the team, so in this game he was just trolling on purpose pre 10.
Lionuk:
Solo sends a hermit lvl 1 (Tho purple suddenly sent a hermit aswell which may be because he is a LTD Hell player and not a mega player - also both did it without talking)
1st warning by blue:
Spoiler!
(01:12 / Allied) ArpaChino: red
(01:17 / Allied) ArpaChino: dont solo send
(01:23 / Allied) LionuK: solo send?
(01:27 / Allied) LionuK: aint like u said anything
(01:29 / Allied) LionuK: so stfu

Solo sends a furbolg lvl 5 without communication.
2nd warning by teal:
Spoiler!
(07:13 / Allied) Chelle'Mis: don't solo send please, and not every round
(07:19 / Allied) LionuK: stfu teal
(07:23 / Allied) LionuK: are you stupid
(07:24 / Allied) LionuK: u cant save


frankcastl3:
Solo sends bowmen for lvl 4
Solo sends bloodorc for lvl 6
Solo sends whelp for lvl 8 (Tho pink sends a dino and yellow sends 2x Ghoul before the round starts so 75% of the team sent)

1st votekick: Against Frankcast
Spoiler!
(10:18 / Allied) amizoo: !votekick frankcast
(10:18 / All) amizoo: A votekick against player [FrankCastl3] has been started by player [amizoo]. 5 votes are needed within 60 seconds to pass
(10:21 / All) sgt_salt: !YES
(10:21 / All) amizoo: Player [sgt_salt] voted to kick player

It was based on orange solo sending two times. Orange was a new player and his team didnt bother telling him that he shouldnt send solo.
Because of lack of communication/warnings from the team and that its based on two solo sends i would considere this an invalid votekick.

2nd votekick: Against Amizoo
Spoiler!
(17:02 / Allied) LionuK: !votekick amizoo
(17:02 / All) amizoo: A votekick against player [amizoo] has been started by player [LionuK]. 5 votes are needed within 60 seconds to pass.
(17:11 / Allied) FrankCastl3: !yes
(17:11 / Allied) ArpaChino: !yes
(17:15 / Allied) Chelle'Mis: !yes
(17:19 / Allied) Slayer_Prao: !yes
(17:28 / Allied) Bornik: !yes
(17:28 / All) amizoo: A votekick against player [amizoo] has passed.
(17:28 / All) amizoo: amizoo was kicked by vote


It seems that Lionuk (from the other team) started the votekick as a revenge because amizoo started one against Frankcast, and threaten them with a ban (from a brq). Also it is based on amizoo solo sending 1 time "(16:47 / All) LionuK: kick green solo send", but pink sent with him so it wasnt a solo send. Those in blue color might have voted because Amizoo was breaking this rule: Do not flame, rage, troll, or insult other players excessively

Here is all the times Amizoo called Frankcast (Orange) a noob based on his build and based on him solo sending twice.
Spoiler!
1) (03:58 / Allied) amizoo: oj noob
2) (05:29 / Allied) amizoo: oj noob
3) (05:55 / Allied) amizoo: noob
4) (06:16 / Allied) amizoo: noob
5) (06:32 / Allied) amizoo: noob
6) (06:50 / Allied) amizoo: 100%
(06:51 / Allied) amizoo: noob
7) (07:27 / Allied) amizoo: oj noob
8) (08:17 / Allied) amizoo: oj noob
9) (08:27 / Allied) amizoo: oj noob
10) (08:38 / Allied) amizoo: oj noob
11) (09:35 / Allied) amizoo: oj noob
12) (09:44 / Allied) amizoo: oj noob
13) (09:47 / Allied) amizoo: retard and noob
14) (10:01 / All) amizoo: oj retard and noob
15) (10:12 / Allied) amizoo: noob


So the 2nd votekick can be considered an abusive votekick from west point of view because they did it as a revenge on Amizoo, but the votes from the east side can be considered legitimate because amizoo was "insulting excessively".

So to sum it up:
Spoiler!
Lionuk could be banned for solo sending twice (ignoring the warnings he got) and starting the 2nd votekick.
Bornik could be banned for voting !yes in the 2nd votekick.
ArpaChino could be banned for voting !yes in the 2nd votekick.
Chelle'Mis could be banned for voting !yes in the 2nd votekick.
Frankcast could be given a warning on the solo send and shouldnt be banned for voting in the votekick.
Slayer_Prao shouldnt be banned for voting in the 2nd votekick
Amizoo (OP) Could be given a warning not to start votekicks without giving warnings, and that he may be banned for "insulting excessively" if any player from the game makes a brq.
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Re: [LTD] LionuK@europe.battle.net

Postby Quetra » Sat Apr 28, 2018 2:32 pm

The rule is against multiple solo sends after being warned not to. He was not warned you just repeatedly called him a noob.

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