[DOTA] 3 FF abusers

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[DOTA] 3 FF abusers

Postby QMB » Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:46 pm

Replay Link: https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=11648124
Game Name: [ENT] DotA apem us/ca #89
Your Warcraft III Username: huggies.
Violator's Warcraft III Username: Ultrafilter ; keef2 ; Denverbronco
Violated Rule(s): FF abuse
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): starting at 7:49
Any further thoughts: These 3 players abused the FF command. lucky that the 4th person didn't ff else the game would have been a lost
It was an easy game once axe early advantage was gone.
(07:49 / Allied) Denverbronco: !ff
(08:03 / Allied) Ultrafilter: !ff
(10:02 / Allied) keef2: !ff

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Re: [DOTA] 3 FF abusers

Postby kasper699 » Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:27 am

since you guys did not ff its not ff abuse

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Re: [DOTA] 3 FF abusers

Postby QMB » Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:51 am

FF abuse only happen if the 4th person also FF?

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Re: [DOTA] 3 FF abusers

Postby nitromon » Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:01 am

there's no such thing as ff abuse since if the 4th person ffs, the game would've been forfeited which is what the function is designed for (majority rule).

the only time ff usage is considered abuse is spamming it and as indication of player attitude in ruining the game and not playing.

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Re: [DOTA] 3 FF abusers

Postby Panopticon » Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:25 am

nitromon wrote:there's no such thing as ff abuse since if the 4th person ffs, the game would've been forfeited which is what the function is designed for (majority rule).

the only time ff usage is considered abuse is spamming it and as indication of player attitude in ruining the game and not playing.



Wrong on both accounts, especially when ff abuse by definition (and banned for) is when !ff is used maliciously, jokingly, and/or when the game is nowhere near being considered a lost game (e.g. when the game is still in its early phases).

One of the major deciding factors is if !ff passes or not, in which if it passes, the ban is usually heavier than if it didn't pass.

I'm pretty sure both of you know this, especially kasper as he was definitely banned for ff abuse more than once.
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Re: [DOTA] 3 FF abusers

Postby Merex » Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:08 am

While the above is true, the 2/3 !FF's that occurred were before the command was even allowed to be used. No bans will be issued.
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