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Eld3r

Postby Hoebell » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:16 am

Replay Link: http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 747014.w3g
Game Name: [ENT] Legion TD Mega 1200+ #16
Your Warcraft III Username: Klaa.Hoebell
Violator's Warcraft III Username: Eld3r
Violated Rule(s): solsend/tk
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): rnd17
Any further thoughts:

he decided to send solo and lose our game.. he do often force solosends...

No one called to send 17... and he just started and forced us to do same tk move...

we had 4x heals 2x muta and they zero wood for send.. it was a clear situation and he just decide "lets kill the team"!

Spoiler!
32:46 / Allied) ELD3R: fucking noobs dunno how to leak
(33:50 / Allied) ELD3R: hope they survive

(34:11 / Allied) ELD3R: good leaks pink
(34:11 / Allied) Klaa.Hoebell: no joke
(34:13 / All) masterofthepit: i dont see no solo send?
(34:16 / All) Klaa.Hoebell: green
(34:17 / All) Klaa.Hoebell: did
(34:20 / All) Shambles.: green forces
(34:24 / All) sdb.: ty green
(34:27 / All) ELD3R: np


Not sure what i should think about his text? he did on purpose looks like for me.. even red thanks him for this TK move

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Re: Eld3r

Postby eld3r » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:24 am

Next time dont ignore for no reason like a kid, there was nobody who call anything, since we skipped 11-16, 17 was obvious for me. Since no communication of anybody. And he ignores me as well. Admins can just see chat. Nobody call anything what i could see. And nobody said anything about lvl 17 send instead of u, after u unignored me. So get a life kid!

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Re: Eld3r

Postby SnowwyWolf » Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:25 pm

Your claim :
No one called to send 17... and he just started and forced us to do same tk move...


What the chat actually shows :
(23:38 / Allied) Shambles.: why tho
(23:42 / Allied) Shambles.: dont we just kill 17?
(23:50 / Allied) Klaa.Hoebell: ofc
(23:52 / Allied) Klaa.Hoebell: just 17
(24:08 / Allied) ELD3R: can 17+
(24:10 / Allied) Klaa.Hoebell: we go 17


I would deny this application for him to be banned, even more so because you are telling blatant lies in order to get him banned. He may have done this in the past but in this instance, he followed the calls you guys made earlier in the game and nothing was said differently between when you said to send 17 and when he sent.

Unless I am missing something obvious here, where somebody, after that was said, changed the plan (I did not see this anywhere) then this ban request should be denied.

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Re: Eld3r

Postby Hoebell » Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:26 pm

http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 747072.w3g
http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/dow ... 747072.txt

Spoiler!
[System]: *** player [Klaa.Hoebell] has joined the game
[System]: [Klaa.Hoebell@entconnect] has played 6645 Legion TD Mega games here (ELO: 1600.70). W/L: 4016/2629.
[System]: Waiting to start until players have been pinged: Klaa.Hoebell
[holymoly]: they never ever
[holymoly]: wow
[System]: Waiting to start until players have been pinged: Klaa.Hoebell
[ELD3R]: verpiss dich
[holymoly]: pro here
[ELD3R]: du huso (son of a bitch
[holymoly]: fuck
[System]: Waiting to start until players have been pinged: Klaa.Hoebell
[holymoly]: hoebell

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Re: Eld3r

Postby Hoebell » Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:28 pm

http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 747030.w3g

Spoiler!
02:04 / All) ELD3R: dieser klar ist krass kaputt im hirn
(02:07 / All) ELD3R: *klaa
(02:21 / All) ELD3R: hoffe der kriegt was er verdient im leben
03:04 / All) ELD3R: richtiger hurensohn


Dunno why he always flame..

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Re: Eld3r

Postby Hoebell » Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:29 pm

@SnowwyWolf

u have to check replay not only chat.. it was clear not lvl 17 game after no leak 11-17 and 2300 woods from them.. we talked about go 17.. but no leak obvs we / they cant 17

And ye we talked 15 mins b4 he sent solo about send 17 or not

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Re: Eld3r

Postby Augustinus » Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:08 pm

Regarding his history, this would be a very long ban. So take a closer look at this and be carefull with judgement. You said it was obvious from the gameplay events that skip was the call. But what was your call then? I don't see anything else that was standing in the room in this game.

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Re: Eld3r

Postby eld3r » Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:24 pm

I didn*t really care if we send or not i would follow, but there was no communication, also u ignored me and mostly talk. but i couldnt see anything. Actually my plan was 17, and i announced it earlier on lvl 11 i guess. I wanted pink to leak to send bigger and during lvl 10 we saw no anti 17 from them. So this was the plan, in my opinion.
Also i saw a comment from pink:
(32:19 / Allied) Shambles.: think we die
(32:22 / Allied) Shambles.: green has no muta
thats all i could see, it shows that he could talk with orange about sending 17 how should i know.
also i even announced what "my" plan would be acutally
(27:04 / Allied) ELD3R: go leak a few rounds
(27:07 / Allied) ELD3R: even for 17
(27:15 / Allied) ELD3R: 14 mb
(27:16 / Allied) ELD3R: 16

and nobody talked about anything so how the hell i should know they "dont like" 17
and that they rolled full anti 17 i can*t see either

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Re: Eld3r

Postby SnowwyWolf » Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:41 pm

Hoebell wrote:@SnowwyWolf

u have to check replay not only chat.. it was clear not lvl 17 game after no leak 11-17 and 2300 woods from them.. we talked about go 17.. but no leak obvs we / they cant 17

And ye we talked 15 mins b4 he sent solo about send 17 or not


I did, I watched the entire replay and you already told a blatant lie in your opening post, you said no one mentioned anything about sending on 17 and yet you all said to send on 17 and agreed. If you feel like something changed in the game after you said to send on 17, you need to make that clear and say it in chat. If I was playing with a team and they all said "Send 17" and it was agreed on, if no one said anything else after that, which none of you did. I would send on 17, otherwise, it would be seen as refusing to team play.

For me this is very simple :
1) You said to send on 17.
2) Your team agreed to send on 17.
3) Nothing else was said and he sent on 17.

He did literally what the team wanted and now you want to try to lie about him to get him punished? Why were you not honest in your post? You lied to try to get him banned, evidently.

As I said, if this was my decision I cannot see any way a ban would be justified if you all said to send on 17, NOTHING else was said after that to the contrary and so he sent on 17.

If I am missing something here, where you said in chat to not send on 17, please do let me know because I cannot see it anywhere. Teams do calls to send on certain levels which are bad all the time but the point is you go with what the team decides, the only thing I have seen was you decide was to send on 17, he did that.

Also you did not speak 15 minutes prior about sending on 17, it was 9 minutes prior, yes that is a big difference.

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Re: Eld3r

Postby Astros » Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:18 pm

This is what happens when you !ignore players. You're already at a disadvantage because of this.

Seems like you !ignored him at the 5th minute mark and told the rest of your teammates to send 17+. I'm assuming Eld3r took that as a recommendation to send 17 as well from pinks response and agreed to it. He couldn't read that you wanted to then skip it. There is nothing ban-worthy here. No one else was calling, pink made a recommendation, you also agreed to send 17 and didn't say anything of the contrary, and a bad play was made.

Denied. Either play against Eld3r if you can't work with him on your team or try not to !ignore him and work together if you plan on being on the same team.
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