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hahahahahahahahahahahaa lol

I will review it.

Relax.. I want to see the clicks for myself.

Awaiting more admins to review this, considering the quantity of games I have here, aswell as the reputation.
I have never tried maphacking, so I don't get where this "fogclick" originates. I clicked nerub while scouted by the ward on the ancient ramp.

48:57 was the FCD timer. DRM showed click was done on 49:02. A delay on Fangorn's connectivity to the BOT by 5 secs. Fangorn was lagging.
Referring to the pics, 48:54 was the last vision of NA. Click was on 48:57. 3 secs. Thus its a delayed click.

49:02 <Fangorn> 0x19: Select subgroup: [Nerubian Assassin], 0x0000DE16000061B7
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This is a delayed click.

Evidence of his bad lag.

@agreements sort this out, asap?

Edit: you should thank @qtrinity for saving you from doing a huge mistake

Agreements, the DRM clearly showed Fangorn was lagging by 5 secs. Click was 3 secs after last vision. It is truly a delayed click. Are there any more clicks from this replay or is this the only click?

Take to your senses and make the right decision for once. qtrinity just posted proof that it is a DELAYED fogclick. And yes, the lags were present throughout the game.

Ok, then i will show you another selection which didnt ring the bell but displayed a lag on him.

I will pick a selection by him on legaras the Vile. Brb.

Hey, I am not defending him because his a friend to me. But lets be constructive. A 3 sec delayed click is not sufficient to nail any player for Map Hack.

Yes, get the other stacker to post more "proofs" please. On the prediction parts: watch the replay and you notice I was constantly ganked by two invis, na and lothardoom. Now what do you think my mentality in such a game is? Yes, finger on G, ready to ball out at any times. Everyone were missing nearly all the time, wards were used. It's only natural that I would have fast reaction, as long as the lagg wasn't worse than the usual 1s.

Also, watch carefully all the times i WAS getting ganked. Wouldn't a hacker just dodge those ganks?

+ the lags were in intervals, so i did not have 5s delay at ALL times

The following click is taken after Fangorn reconnected by GProxy and before the Fog Click instance.

34:06 shows the 1st moment of selection by Fangorn done on Legaras the Vile.
DRM says 34:09. The difference between Fangorn and the BOT was 3 secs different.

34:09 <Fangorn> 0x19: Select subgroup: [Leragas The Vile], 0x00005B3B00005B3B
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Now, lets compare Agreement's clicks on Legaras the Vile. From the following, your 1st selection on this shop was 10:39 and the DRM recorded 10:40. 1 sec delayed.
Compared to Fangorn's shop selection of 3 secs, it truly showed he was lagging more than you.

10:40 <Cloudish> 0x19: Select subgroup: [Leragas The Vile], 0x00005C0E00005C0E
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Lets get back to the click you stated by him on you (NA). It was 3 seconds after last vision. Already he was suffering a 3 secs delay on Legaras the Vile, this click is not valid of a MH.

For a click by Fangorn to be valid of a Fog Click, it must more 5 secs from last vision because he was already lagging by 3 secs.

Example, last vision 1:00. Click done 1:06. Put into account he lags 3 secs with the BOT, his click will be 3 secs too late <-- This is definitely MH.

Thus for the click on NA to be a map hack click, he has to select at and after 49:00 (Last Vision 48:54)

Everyone makes mistakes. We all have our fair share of carelessness. Just hope that we clear the air and get non guilty players back to their games.

QTriNitY wrote:48:57 was the FCD timer. DRM showed click was done on 49:02. A delay on Fangorn's connectivity to the BOT by 5 secs. Fangorn was lagging.
Referring to the pics, 48:54 was the last vision of NA. Click was on 48:57. 3 secs. Thus its a delayed click.

49:02 <Fangorn> 0x19: Select subgroup: [Nerubian Assassin], 0x0000DE16000061B7
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This is a delayed click.

Evidence of his bad lag.

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There're no fog clicks for the whole game and in general fangorn hasn't been reported for maphack and suddenly he fog clicks after 51 minutes ingame?

DRM: [62811] 51:04 Player: Fangorn 0x19: Select subgroup [Nerubian Assassin, object=0x0000DE16000061B7]

From a neutral point of view: Most if not all players are not getting banned for one click which is that close to the fog with the risk of being delayed.

Some math: Running the replay on very slow speed, we'll notice that the fog lasts longer than the :52 (actually some milliseconds more).
The click appeared at 51:04:000 (no milliseconds, proved).

Conclusion: So he had 1 second, plus some milliseconds (200-400 max) to make that click.
As stated above, that proof isn't fully stable. I suggest to check more replays to get a better evidence or add moments of suspicious behavior.
Looking at the pictures itself without considering the milliseconds, it surely looks like maphack based on the timer - but that's nothing we should rely on.

Ok, i will try explaining from my view of the situation. Brb.

I'd just like to put out there, at times I've had about 400ping and had almost 7seconds delay.