Lumberjack_jack@useast.battle.net

[tobehunter]

Your battle.net username:Macomb8BossIL
Violator's battle.net username:Lumberjack_jack@useast.battle.net, apotheker@europe.battle.net
Game name (if known):[ENT] DotA ap us/ca #12
Bot name (for example, ENT15):
Approximate date/time of game (alternatively, link to a Stats page):02/12/2012, 15:17
Rule player violated:mh
Time of incidents (Note in-game timer or replay timer):Around 17mins, Axe(Lumberjack_jack) is chasing Marina when she under invisible. And there is a lots of moment you can find that Axe is using MH.
Any further thoughts:Plase ban these MHs, If you guys proved.
Attach replay: http://s6.clanent.net/replay/view_repla ... 744184.w3g

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[m4dnix]

Wow,wow... this game is pain in the ass, so many suspicious players in there... i will surely need assistence here. I did some some work by myself, but it was hard to watch all of them at once, so i had to review it 3x.. and mostly watched on 1x.. i have no energy anymore for this one, i think i've done enough, my colleagues should do the rest i believe. what i found:



12:41 |cFFA52A2AApotheker (Traxex)|r clicked Priestess of the Moon - traxex selects mirana in forest, no vison/wards.
16:49 |cFFA020F0Macomb8BossIL (Ogre Magi)|r clicked Lord of Avernus - Ogre selected two of them after he died.
16:49 |cFFA020F0Macomb8BossIL (Ogre Magi)|r clicked Axe Same as above.
19:1 |cFFA020F0Macomb8BossIL (Ogre Magi)|r clicked Drow Ranger - could be delayed one.

19:25 - axe starts chasing invisible mirana, seems to me like a mh. About Axe, this guy was playing suspiciously whole game, i am not sure, but it could be a maphack, they know exactly when/what and how, they knew if they were about to get ganked or whatsoever, i need confirmation...

conclusion: I will be waiting another admin to confirm these, it took me some time to review it a couple of times, and drained alot of energy from me, i have never seen so many suspicious players in a single game.

Axe: I already said that above;
Traxex: I watched him, he had fog-clicks + he knew everything whole game, i am although sure about him maphacking.
Ogre: This is the guy who reported them, but himself also seems to be hacking, i need confirmation on these fogclicks.

NOTE: I didn't ban anyone yet, i will wait you guys to confirm it and process. If you need any help, just give me a call, i will review it again if needed, for now, i am done.

[tobehunter]

hello, m4dnix! This is Macomb8BOSSIL. I almost did nothing in that game because of my network. I'm not mh. I will check this replay. But you can see my record.If i was a mh,could I die so many times and 0 kill?

[m4dnix]

Sure man, go ahead, i am ok with it, i didnt ban anyone yet, thats the reason i said that i need my other colleagues to check these, your clicks could be delayed aswell. I wasnt sure, thats the reason i asked for assistence. I am only sure with Traxex maphacking, others has to be checked yet.

[Bubblestorms]

Confirmed fog clicks

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12:41 |cFFA52A2AApotheker (Traxex)|r clicked Priestess of the Moon
1:43 |cFFA52A2AApotheker (Traxex)|r clicked Slayer


Glitched in my opinion

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16:49 |cFFA020F0Macomb8BossIL (Ogre Magi)|r clicked Lord of Avernus.
16:49 |cFFA020F0Macomb8BossIL (Ogre Magi)|r clicked Axe.

These 2 seemed glitched, the 10 second rule applies here.

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19:25 - axe starts chasing invisible mirana This seems like suspicious play, he could have just been lucky or he actually is hacking and knows where to go.

You can ban traxex and will need some one to confirm axe, might have been hacking, no proven fog clicks though.

[GhettoRhymes]

I have also reviewed the replays, fogclicks confirmed on Traxex.

-GR

[m4dnix]

Well, as i said, i was sure for Traxes, the other two had to be checked

[GhettoRhymes]

You're right, I just woke up little sleep last night.
Axe seems to be very suspicious, but it might just be dumb-founded luck, I wouldn't consider him MH'ing personally - Ogre(ban requester) does seem rather very suspicious being able to click on them after he has died with no vision. Might be delayed, but I'm sure it's MH. Trax is for sure MH.

-GR

[Hisoka]

Traxex definitely is Mhing.
About Ogre i think too is a glitch, but i cannot explain how he could have clicked with fog when he died. I cannot say it's delay.

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19:25 - axe starts chasing invisible mirana This seems like suspicious play, he could have just been lucky or he actually is hacking and knows where to go.

Assuming the movements and the click he made to my personal opinion is definitely Mhing. I wouldnt define that dumb-blind Luck.
Anyway
Traxex: 100% Map Hacking
Ogre: 40~50% (Maybe Delay maybe Not)
Axe: 60% (To me seems he actually know where to go. But imho is my opinion)

[m4dnix]

Ok, let me tell you my opinion one more time:

1st. Traxex, maphacking (We all agreed)
2nd. Axe, i don't know much about this guy, i watched replay on 1x twice, i really put some effort into that one, and he was playing with Abbadon, they are friends, and they were top lane, and axe knew exactly when to go back. And that fog-click on goblin laboratory isnt delayed one, he was really far from it.
3rd. Ogre (the guy who requested this ban) He is really questionable, because he didnt play well, died so many times, and logic tells us that someone who is map-hacking shouldnt be dying that much, but yet again, that could be tricky, i dont believe in that anyhow. But still, these clicks has to be checked one more time, because there is good probability that they are delayed. But i don't understand these clicks when he died, why would he select two of them while himself being ganked, ok, maybe one, but why both of them? (He selected both of them a couple of seconds after he died).

For me, all 3 of them are clearly map-hacking. Although, i didnt ban anyone yet, i need some more opinions from my colleagues.

[Bubblestorms]

In my opinion we should put axe and ogre both on the watch list and ban traxex for mh.

[Hisoka]

Yes I agree. That's the Best solution for Now, unless an Admin want to Intervene.

[GhettoRhymes]

Also agreed.

-GR

[m4dnix]

If that works for you, i agree aswell. Apotheker banned, the other two will be on the watch list from now on. Moving it to processed now.

[ForMaDawgS]

you meaan to tell me you watched the replay twice on 1x and you still can't tell 2 of them are maphacking?