[DOTA] WeirdBuild@uswest - Maphack

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[DOTA] WeirdBuild@uswest - Maphack

Postby Zippilyzap » Sat Jan 17, 2015 3:57 pm

Replay Link: http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 060440.w3g
Game Name: [ENT] DotA apem us/ca #87
Your Warcraft III Username: Zippilyzap
Violator's Warcraft III Username: WeirdBuild@uswest
Violated Rule(s): Maphack
Time of Violation (in-game or replay):
5:40 Stops attacking creeps, starts backing up, seeing that Lich has DD Rune stored with no vision
8:50 Heads for Invis Rune
9:20 Heads for Axe
17:27 Fog clicks merchant
17:29 Fog clicks merchant
18:57 Fog clicks merchant
25:47 Bolts ground for true sight, revealing invisible Sniper
Any further thoughts: The Sentinel never had a single ward, but Zeus managed to get runes 100% of the time when he decides to "check." He's constantly seen backing up when enemies are nearby and would show himself when he knew it was safe. The merchant fog clicks are legit. He clicks them before granted vision.

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Re: [DOTA] WeirdBuild@uswest - Maphack

Postby Larz » Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:25 pm

at 5.40 he did back but he was buying and getting to a safe place where he could control his pet
the fog clicks are all there....

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Re: [DOTA] WeirdBuild@uswest - Maphack

Postby F-Train » Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:44 pm

Suspicious moves valid!
5:40 zeus stops attacking creeps and backs off because lich is coming. no vision of lich there. it looks like zeus was buying items with courier and looking for a safe spot, but zeus went toward ancient camp and waited until lich came back mid, then he went back mid. he could have just stayed near the tower, instead he moved away from lich. suspicious
8:50 heads for invis rune (top) with no vision, but then goes bot (?) suspicious
9:20 zeus had vision of axe, lc was there
25:74 bolts ground to reveal invis sniper, then backs off. suspicious
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@larz882003 i found no legit fogclicks

just know that side shops can not be confirmed to be maphacking*
I have warned you before, fogclick detector is not allowed to be used ingame. Banned 2 days
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    Re: [DOTA] WeirdBuild@uswest - Maphack

    Postby Zippilyzap » Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:00 pm

    But I did not use FCD during the game. After he avoided multiple gank attempts, I concluded that he was hacking because they had no wards up. I knew this because I had wards up throughout the game and failed to see any players from the Sentinel set up wards. The FCD was used for the replay only.

    Also, although he's banned, I would like to challenge you on the merchant fog clicks. They were indeed clicked before granted vision.

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    Re: [DOTA] WeirdBuild@uswest - Maphack

    Postby F-Train » Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:09 pm

    Zippilyzap wrote:But I did not use FCD during the game. After he avoided multiple gank attempts, I concluded that he was hacking because they had no wards up. I knew this because I had wards up throughout the game and failed to see any players from the Sentinel set up wards. The FCD was used for the replay only.

    (18:05 / All) Zippilyzap: zeus, you're maphacking

    You said this right after zeus fogclicks the side shops, which are 99% bugged and can't be confirmed to be maphack. So I came to the conclusion that you were using it in game. Do you understand why fogclick detectors are not allowed while playing dota?
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      Re: [DOTA] WeirdBuild@uswest - Maphack

      Postby Zippilyzap » Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:12 pm

      Yes, I do. I said it because he backed away from tower, despite having an ally nearby. In which case, he had done three times already to that point. How would I have seen where he was when the fog clicks happened anyway to accuse him solely for that? Additionally, I accuse players just about every game, whether or not there exist a fog click in the replay.

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      Re: [DOTA] WeirdBuild@uswest - Maphack

      Postby F-Train » Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:17 pm

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        Re: [DOTA] WeirdBuild@uswest - Maphack

        Postby F-Train » Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:21 pm

        Zippilyzap wrote:Also, although he's banned, I would like to challenge you on the merchant fog clicks. They were indeed clicked before granted vision.

        Maphack Detection wrote:Clicking side shops: These clicks can not be confirmed to be maphacking.

        If the player is anywhere near it, it would be a delayed click.
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          Re: [DOTA] WeirdBuild@uswest - Maphack

          Postby Zippilyzap » Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:24 pm

          Okay, fine. I concur. Howeverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, how does one perform a delayed click before any granted vision?

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          Re: [DOTA] WeirdBuild@uswest - Maphack

          Postby Larz » Sun Jan 18, 2015 2:19 am

          you know how you click on the side shop but its empty and you cant see the contents? then when you walk to it the contens then become visible...that is a delayed click

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          Re: [DOTA] WeirdBuild@uswest - Maphack

          Postby Zippilyzap » Sun Jan 18, 2015 5:20 am

          Right. Because clicking on shops behind the trees before vision is granted is very possible. Many players visited the shops, strange that it decided to bug when the player banned for hacking decides to pay it a visit, from behind the trees with no vision.

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          Re: [DOTA] WeirdBuild@uswest - Maphack

          Postby nabo. » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:07 pm

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          Re: [DOTA] WeirdBuild@uswest - Maphack

          Postby F-Train » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:19 pm

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          [ENT] DotA apem us/ca #87
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            Re: [DOTA] WeirdBuild@uswest - Maphack

            Postby Hutzu » Sun Feb 08, 2015 6:35 pm

            Confirmed. No dodge found.


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