[LOD] bugs--hong kong might've been map hacking

[g0taim]

Replay Link: https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=8424859
Game Name: [ent] lod -sds6bod2fn #12
Your Warcraft III Username: lodnab
Violator's Warcraft III Username: bugs
Violated Rule(s): i believe map hack
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): most of the game
Any further thoughts: every time me or invoker got close to him while being hidden with perma invis he would run away instantly without any wards being set up

[Stiff_Maistar]

@g0taim You need to post timestamps, or else an admin wont even look at it since its 56 mins long.

[SeriouslyStrange]

@g0taim , please provide timestamps, and a description of what is happening on those timestamps; otherwise I will deny this request.

[BeerLord]

this guy needs to be looked at. There were several suspicious movements in this game.

[g0taim]

sorry never been good with the time stamps since i dont normally rewatch the games but yes he does act weird throughout the game play

[Nat]

@beerlord @seriouslystrange
Leave this one to me, I believe I have good judgement of maphack. I will watch the whole replay focusing on him.
Will also watch some of his recent games for backup evidence.

[Nat]

So just before I get into the review, I want to point out a few things. The replay will begin, and you should start off viewing pink which means every time pink dies, it will shift your cam to him when he revives.

As for the review:

From the very beginning, to 00:15:30, he farms creeps. No helping team, no attempts, no assists...

What I found on accident next is pretty strange. I can't seem to figure it out yet. I'm not saying 100% mh.
Now at roughly 00:16:00 pink dies, I want you to turn off fog of war for this part. (Don't forget to make sure you are watching bugs)
00:16:30 Change speed to 1/2.
Literally as soon as pink spawns, pause........ Do you see it?

Spoiler!

Yes, that's right. If you are viewing pink from "bugs' " perspective, you will see that he has pink selected. Turn on fog of war, and you can't see that he has anything selected, nor can you see any of top right. Now when you notice there's no selection on pink anymore, I searched the map and found nothing selected. I have a feeling that he may have selected brown, who was invis at the time. I'm not certain of this, but I'm at least 90% sure he had selected something invisible or one of his own units that recently died. Although I may be wrong again, because 16:41 he moves into the creeps. Still, I see no selection circle under his char.
00:23:54 The same thing happens, pink spawns and has red ring. It's hard to say because it's almost like you watch pink the whole game either way.
The weird thing about this is that at 00:24:18, there is a green circle under blue, and a red circle under pink. It's very hard to tell what is going on, whether what I'm seeing is purple selecting pink or pink's own selection.
Pink revives again, and at this point I'm thinking this whole thing might just be pinks selection because from here we see it the whole time. I'm very confused and don't know if this is common or not.

Apart from that, watching the match was super boring. Purple did nothing but farm the whole game, use his ulti spell and change form. In this replay in which g0taim posted, I saw very few instances of where I thought were the most dodgy, and they were not enough to convince me.

I will look into more of his replays later, as of now he is not my main concern.

[EdgeOfChaos]

That sounds like a fog click.

Unfortunately, my DotA Replay Manager is not working. It shows actions, but doesn't show the names of units selected (even though I took data from the right DotA map). Anyways I'm pretty sure this is the click:

16:29 <bugs> 0x19: Select Subgroup: [] 0x000070610002B89D
16:29 <bugs> 0x19: Select Subgroup: [H00F] 0x000070610002B89D

If someone with a working DRM wants to see if it's a legit fogclick.

[Stiff_Maistar]

It isnt a fog click. Its just a bug with the replay systen where every players "selection circle" will be move to a player respawning. This bug will move the selection cirle to the player who is the replay saver, here pink.

[FalenGa]

@CR4ZY
The whole "circle on a player who just respawned" thing is a form of bug, which only happens for the person you have auto selected in the beginning of the game.

For example, if the replay starts with pink selected, then everytime he respawns there will be a circle on him ( if you are watching it from someone else's POV ).
And then, for several seconds, there will be no circle underneath the selected player, even tho he moves. It's just a bug.

The circle dissapears if you activate fog.

In order to confirm fog click, you need to start using DRM.
http://wiki.entgaming.net/index.php?title=EntGaming:DRM

[FalenGa]

1500 he is clearly cognizant of invisible ogre ganging jungle. Avoids him, and returns to base with 550 hp, even tho he would normally only return when in red hp.
1 minute later, he teleports to mid tower, uses DK's ulti, starts running straight to invis ogre, uses haunt, realises ogre is invis, and teleports teal instead.
2100 same exact deal. Aware of invis ogre in jungle ( and also aware of the ward there ), he stays back for no reason, then uses both ulties.
2300 aware of invis invoker.
2500 aware of invis brown and ogre, ganging him in woods. He avoids them and returns to base for no reason.
2730 straight to low-hp brown in rosh.
2930 uses haunt in a very convenient timing, seconds before they get ganged by 4 people.


Player bugs is banned 1 year for the use of map hack.

[FalenGa]

Dodged. TID: 101213