[4.0.0] Island Defense: Tides of Redemption

[Neco]

Make two additional and optional modes (bw - builderwin, tw - titanwin), creating two scenarios:
* helicopters for builders
* vulcan for molt, disease for bub, flooding for luci, etc. (which obv kills all builders).

Maybe as HCL? I'm a little uncomfortable as adding this as a votable mode at the start of the game, as we already have a few.

[aRt)Y]

It isn't supposed to be a mode itself but an extra option (e.g. -artw, all random + titan win). It would work with any mode but is less meant for public games.

[Lynx]

Why have ending timers? Imo that would encourage stalling, since waiting the out the timer is easier than killing a base. I agree with you though that some games are too long. I suggest forcing the game to end faster by increasing various values like wood harvesting, experience rate, and gold gain. Doing this it's like fastforwading games.

[pandaren.]

Some games are long but it does not mean its unwinnable. I'v had games myself where it took me a while to break the base but in the end i was victorious. I'v even had games where i believes titan had no chance of winning and called it stalling but in the end loss...

Tbh those long games are the rarest ones most of the time and are the funnest. If the titan is a nub and stalling and you yourself cant kill him there must be a problem.

[LightBlue-]

@Pandaren-

The issue arises when the Titan must kill every single unit that isn't inside a base. During the 2 hour game I was talking about, the titan had to kill every wall and kill every seed that was placed around the map before he finally just instantly died at a base.

In most cases if games last longer then ~50 minutes its usually a win for builders. As titan is usually unable to break the base.

[pandaren.]

meh i see your point atm titan is stalling my game lel, But i still do enjoy long games with a good titan

[LightBlue-]

meh i see your point atm titan is stalling my game lel, But i still do enjoy long games with a good titan

Oh I agree with you on this.

Maybe implement a mode that allows the game to extend in time, if the builders/titan agree?

[Neco]

meh i see your point atm titan is stalling my game lel, But i still do enjoy long games with a good titan

Oh I agree with you on this.

Maybe implement a mode that allows the game to extend in time, if the builders/titan agree?

Hmm, yeah I like that idea. A vote whether to extend the game-over timer or not.

Which would you guys prefer be the default, titan winning or defenders winning? Personally I'm a little on the fence as to which is the "right" one.

[Lynx]

Which would you guys prefer be the default, titan winning or defenders winning? Personally I'm a little on the fence as to which is the "right" one.

Neither

[aRt)Y]

Which would you guys prefer be the default, titan winning or defenders winning? Personally I'm a little on the fence as to which is the "right" one.

Neither

Agreed. There shouldn't be a default mode. It's a point of interpretation whether the titan should win or lose by default after x minutes, so in my opinion, the time spent on arguing about that could be invested more wisely :P

[Neco]

Which would you guys prefer be the default, titan winning or defenders winning? Personally I'm a little on the fence as to which is the "right" one.

Neither

Agreed. There shouldn't be a default mode. It's a point of interpretation whether the titan should win or lose by default after x minutes, so in my opinion, the time spent on arguing about that could be invested more wisely

In that case it doesn't seem like a very useful option outside of inhouses. How often will you get pubs agreeing to things? Especially if they involve the titan's opinion.

[aRt)Y]

Well, at the moment, it's more or less only a brainstorming to forge new ideas and concepts.

[Lynx]

Why have ending timers? Imo that would encourage stalling, since waiting the out the timer is easier than killing a base. I agree with you though that some games are too long. I suggest forcing the game to end faster by increasing various values like wood harvesting, experience rate, and gold gain. Doing this it's like fastforwading games.

I like my idea.

[narbtit]

also agree with @Pandaren- about some long games being the funnest

but how often does that happen? very rare imo. You get long boring games and some long good games.

[pandaren.]

Neco i like the nether rock idea but do you plan to change the golding animation as well?