Terrain Ideas

[Remixer]

Well this is a base place what i like,so i decided to change the base due to it getting boring to base at.

The walling would have to come a lot deeper, as you have no pedestals to build towers on. Then again it suffers from the same problems as your previous base, it's 100% nukeable. Bouncing off the workers ends up in covering the entire base or at least its pathways.

[Sytec270]

Well this is a base place what i like,so i decided to change the base due to it getting boring to base at.

The walling would have to come a lot deeper, as you have no pedestals to build towers on. Then again it suffers from the same problems as your previous base, it's 100% nukeable. Bouncing off the workers ends up in covering the entire base or at least its pathways.

Y im geting opinions from other players.

Edit: I asked neco for the terrain the smygar made for 4.0.0 i hope he will give it to look at.

[Remixer]

Lets hope he will give it out. I am soon done with further editions - however I need to recalculate shadows once again (I don't know why they keep messing up so hard in this map).

[Remixer]

Overlay image of my editings:

Blue marks are for bases, gave them somewhat creative and fitting names. The useless mountainous-watery area (now Shell Shore Base) is put to use. I am not sure how efficient that would be as a base, it's very compact but it could be edited a little. Seems to fit quite a few tower though.

Red marks are for seeds, numbers indicate the amount of workers that fit to each seed. The one with 6 workers is a walk-through seed, like it has been.

The orange arrows indicate possible movements on the map, like you see I added a lumber base area to the bottom-left. The idea is to give more purpose for the shallow water area, for Titan to roam there. The passage between the bases is also new, to encourage Titan to roam to southern area as well. Also, the new lumber base area reduces the chances of blocking titan off with one wall - now it should require a few more (it used to be doable by just blocking off the river/shallow water area).

A close up of the Shell Shore Base:


Clarification:
The lumber area to the right (in the base) fits around 20 workers (the trees are placed above the cave) depending on how much space you are left up with.

[Neco]

I like the bottom-right of that last one.

[Sytec270]

Made a new way to use as an escape and also as a lb.

[Remixer]

Made a new way to use as an escape and also as a lb.

Once again it's a narrow pathway kind of lumber base that should be avoided - they are pain the in ass for titan, and don't really look like a "lumber base". Blocking those with walls not only block path for the titan but also restricts his movement a lot.

Also, that setup would remove the nuke-proof of the base above that new path - being able to nuke to the entire base, not to mention the huge blind-angle that it creates.

[Sytec270]

Well i reduced nukebility good amount and made some unbuildable tiles do you like it now ?

[Remixer]

Well i reduced nukebility good amount and made some unbuildable tiles do you like it now ?

It's better but it still has no reason to exist - it still sucks for Titan.

[Sytec270]

How does it still suck for the titan ? he has an extra escape route and a way to the lb there.

[Remixer]

How does it still suck for the titan ? he has an extra escape route and a way to the lb there.

How does it still suck for the titan ?
A) It can be walled and blocked with one or two walls, from both directions, even with the unbuildable tiles.
B) This gives another escape route for builders away from the original lumber base, above the route, and from bottom-left.

he has an extra escape route
A) Where would he escape from? Bottom-left has no popular bases and even if there was a base, using the river exit would be a lot faster, and safe, since it can be walled off from only 1 spot and rest is shallow water.
B) As an escape route your path is very risky and time-consuming, it makes an unnecessary loop to the bottom-edge of the map, taking more time and it can be walled off, from both directions.

a way to the lb there
A) Which lumber base are we talking about? The one above the route? Which is already spotted by the titan if he exits the river (like used to). Or the ones in the bottom-left, that are more easily accessed by the river?

[Stealer]

Tbh unbuildable tiles are my least favorite terrain.

Look guys, a nice stone foundation for me to put/make my wall on/off. Nvm can't build here.

[Lynx]

ID needs more unbuildable terrain though. Also like someone suggested earlier, no vision from walls or shelters.

[Remixer]

Agreed with Lynx. Unbuildable terrain is needed and at least I have mentioned that walls or shelters should not give vision.

[Burn]

True, but some unbuildable spots need to be removed.

-Burn