Biggest problems in Island Defense (With suggestions)
Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 5:32 pm
I wanted a separate topic and a poll for this to note of its importance. This is not meant to hate on the map, merely providing constructive criticism for the map
My top three problems with Island Defense:
1) Stalling titans
2) Game is not noob friendly
3) Builders have nothing to do if they die and get punished
The poll allows 3 choices. If you wish, you can post a reply to this topic that will suggest another choice.
Poll options and why it's a big problem, and my suggestions to fix this problem:
1) Game is not noob friendly
Reason: New players have no idea what they're doing, who end up feeding or becoming a minion, get ridiculed, and never coming back.
2) Unbalanced builders/titans
Reason: Makes competitive gaming impossible without player rules, not really that big of a problem in public games.
3) Staller titans
Reason: Makes builder games exceptionally boring, and makes climbing ELO tedious.
4) Builders who leave when they are about to feed or give a minion
Unfair to titan that there is a 15 second full deny feature in the game while other builders get to decide whether to suicide or deny the rest of the feed.
5) Builders who AFK into the observer slot preventing full house games
Hard to win as titan without full house
6) Builders have nothing to do if they die and just AFK/QUIT
Makes dead inhouse players AFK, preventing further inhouses. Makes decent builders play minions and ruin stacked public games.
7) Broken ELO system
Players with ELO quit because ELO was beyond hope. Without a good ELO system, it is impossible to gauge skill.
8) Everyone wants to play builder instead of titan
9) Other (Post an option to suggest for the poll with your suggestion)
If you are willing to constructively criticise someone's suggestion, please post a suggestion of your own or a modified version.
@uakf.b Hi, is it possible to allow me to use more than one spoiler tag in a post? It would make my post a lot less cluttered.
-Burn
My top three problems with Island Defense:
1) Stalling titans
2) Game is not noob friendly
3) Builders have nothing to do if they die and get punished
The poll allows 3 choices. If you wish, you can post a reply to this topic that will suggest another choice.
Poll options and why it's a big problem, and my suggestions to fix this problem:
1) Game is not noob friendly
Reason: New players have no idea what they're doing, who end up feeding or becoming a minion, get ridiculed, and never coming back.
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Fix: -teech/-teach command. Provides a cinematic tutorial for noobs and a link to a video guide to Island Defense. (One and only one is [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0esPil8DzM]this one[/url], but I mgiht make another one in the distant future)2) Unbalanced builders/titans
Reason: Makes competitive gaming impossible without player rules, not really that big of a problem in public games.
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General fix for builders: Make all super tower DPS the same but with different abilities to provide variety. (Doesn't apply to troll/goblin/faerie/Ogre)
General fix for Titans: Make all nukes instant cast, same mana cost, Have unique scouts/WW/3) Staller titans
Reason: Makes builder games exceptionally boring, and makes climbing ELO tedious.
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Implement -boot system: Basically an in-game votekick which needs a % of alive builders to do that is not restricted by time limit or multiple kicks going at the same time like !votekick is. It also ignores either the titan's or builder's vote depending on the reason for -booting. Titan will be forced to leave after 5 minutes of using the -boot titan command. If a builder dies within the 5 minutes, then the -boot titan is cancelled and they must re-vote.
Noob fix: Give -surrender command to both builders/titans (basically just makes the titan leave, allowing someone else to -titan, a fancier way of alt+ Q_Qing - Many people who don't know about the command will type it thinking it ends the game)
Stalling titan fix: -boot titan after 40/50/60 mins (votekick% builders go down each GP) in-game, or after the titan has not gotten a minion after 10 minutes of game-play time.
AFK fix: -boot titan if titan is AFK for 3mins. (starts at 80%, then lowers by 10% each minute)
Refusal to play fix: -boot titan if titan is not getting any experience or gold for 3mins (starts at 100%, then lowers by 10% each minute)
TK fix: If you TK any building that costs more than 300 wood OR any building worth ANY gold, then you can be -booted by 100% of alive builders vote. Players that give shared controls to the team killer or if titan has attacked the building or unit makes the team killer exempt from the -boot.4) Builders who leave when they are about to feed or give a minion
Unfair to titan that there is a 15 second full deny feature in the game while other builders get to decide whether to suicide or deny the rest of the feed.
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Fix: Non-builder units remain for 5 minutes after builder leaves. Builder remains for 3 minutes after builder leaves. Time limit is indefinite for inhouses. There'd just be a mode like -arih to signify that it is the inhouse version of the mode.5) Builders who AFK into the observer slot preventing full house games
Hard to win as titan without full house
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FIX: The player's builder still spawns, but control is granted to everyone until the player comes back and takes it away.
6) Builders have nothing to do if they die and just AFK/QUIT
Makes dead inhouse players AFK, preventing further inhouses. Makes decent builders play minions and ruin stacked public games.
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FIX: When builders die, and become -obs, they are granted control over players that type the -AFK command. Observers can also play blackjack.7) Broken ELO system
Players with ELO quit because ELO was beyond hope. Without a good ELO system, it is impossible to gauge skill.
8) Everyone wants to play builder instead of titan
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FIX: Make titan more fun to play -
Give a lvl 3 minion after 10 minutes if titan does not kill a builder.
Give a lvl 4 minion after 20 minutes if titan does not kill two builders.
Titan does not get any minions if he lets a minion die.9) Other (Post an option to suggest for the poll with your suggestion)
If you are willing to constructively criticise someone's suggestion, please post a suggestion of your own or a modified version.
@uakf.b Hi, is it possible to allow me to use more than one spoiler tag in a post? It would make my post a lot less cluttered.
-Burn