CW pull - intentional or not

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CW pull - intentional or not

Postby I_kill_satan » Mon Jul 13, 2015 6:11 pm

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Hi guyz, please look this picture.

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So our civ moderator need support to decide it is intentional and malicious pull or unintentional. For me its clear. Please give ur opinion there. Thanks a lot.

p.s. replay here http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 127809.w3g

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Re: CW pull - intentional or not

Postby ShadowZz » Mon Jul 13, 2015 7:30 pm

Your really this annoyed that one ban request was denied. Considering CW ban requests used to sit for one month+ before being dealt with. Okay.

He walked away from the building with less than 1% left to build. If he was going to try and pull intentionally he wouldn't leave less than 1 second of build time on it. On top of that it didn't even pull the group and had 0 affect on the game. You Pmed me about this and I gave you the same answer. I don't see what your trying to accomplish?
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Re: CW pull - intentional or not

Postby RaptorXI » Mon Jul 13, 2015 9:22 pm

Clear pulling for me:
Towers were at 100% and 99% health, no rush or whatsever. No repair needed. Simple way of a cheater to make his lane push back earlier.

Or with DRM:
Setup:
He leaves an unfinished camp in the back (building it up will activate the wc3 trigger).
Then his worker runs a bit outside near the towers to get in aggro range of the creeps
7:02 <MyLegion333> 0x19: Select subgroup: [Worker], 0x00004AC200004AC2
7:02 <MyLegion333> 0x12: Target order: smart (X: -2898.53, Y: -4788.50, flags: 0x0000)
7:02 <MyLegion333> 0x12: Target order: smart (X: -2881.30, Y: -4758.08, flags: 0x0000)
7:02 <MyLegion333> 0x12: Target order: smart (X: -2694.66, Y: -4713.23, flags: 0x0000)
then
7:03 <MyLegion333> 0x19: Select subgroup: [Worker], 0x00004AC200004AC2
7:04 <MyLegion333> 0x12: Target order: smart (X: -4224.00, Y: -4160.00, Target: 0x0002A17300005611, flags: 0x0000)
and all the way back, stupid AI tries to attack worker, creeps get weakened.
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Re: CW pull - intentional or not

Postby ShadowZz » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:26 pm

Watched it again. He's banned. Move on.
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Re: CW pull - intentional or not

Postby supersexyy » Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:37 am

At least have a bit of dignity rather than 'move on' lol.
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Re: CW pull - intentional or not

Postby RaptorXI » Mon Aug 24, 2015 12:56 am

It seems like some guys like to play with fire, by trying to find out how much a worker can do without doing the actual pull, or by false accusing someone else of pulling for the sake of reporting.
wiki.entgaming (phrased by aRt)Y and nabo.) wrote:Do not purposely pull and aggro the creeps using your builder.


There are situations where repairing or building is needed, for example at a rush. But even here activating, deactivating, activating those trigggers is just again to exploit the weakness of the AI.

Checklist:
*Pulling can only be done with a worker, since it's the only type of unit in the game that can build or repair, and with that do the bad things.
No workers, no pull.
*Building a defensive structure (something can damage like a Tower, Great Wall or Maginot) makes enemy creeps to focus those, not the workers.
Not be counted as pulling.
*Always doublecheck your reports with tools like DRM, so you can see the full action log. Make sure to report the right guy. With the possibility of sharing control to allies, someone can abuse it for malicious intentions.
*If a worker appears on the battlefield, what is he doing? He may just enjoy the weather (Lordaeron Summer!), simple presence doesn't mean someone will pull. Or simply run through:
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And again, the rule wasn't made to bully, but to find a solution for an issue that can't be fixed with the WC3 editor.


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