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Ban Appeal and don't understand...

Postby sin67 » Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:32 pm

Your Warcraft III username: dotaliksdik
Realm/Gateway: Northend (Europe)
Why are you banned: ban dodging
Why you should be unbanned: My ban for flaming expired and now I'm banned for ban dodging suddenly - what on earth does that even mean? I couldn't play if banned how can I dodge it??

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Re: Ban Appeal and don't understand...

Postby Desire » Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:56 pm

Dodging is defined as playing on a different account while being banned on another account, often by a (purposely triggered) change of the IP. Dodging is considered a major offense equal to maphacking.

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Re: Ban Appeal and don't understand...

Postby sin67 » Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:18 pm

I use a few accounts and was banned on all of them...I could only play again when I assume my ban lapsed...
If my IP changed it wasn't purposely triggered - wouldn't even know how to do that - doesn't that just happen from time to time by the ISP or rebooting the router or something?

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Re: Ban Appeal and don't understand...

Postby Desire » Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:15 am

From experience of another appeal, I think one way is by changing internet's. If you didn't do what you said you did than this might be a weird mistake. I hope you get un-ban!

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Re: Ban Appeal and don't understand...

Postby CheW » Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:21 pm

@sin67

You were banned for dodging because you made new accounts and rolled your IP while you were banned for flaming.
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Re: Ban Appeal and don't understand...

Postby sin67 » Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:04 pm

As explained I didn't roll my IP whatever that means...wouldn't know how to and how on earth can you prove it?

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Re: Ban Appeal and don't understand...

Postby Essenze » Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:12 pm

Rolling means changing your IP to be able to play again. We can monitor everything @sin67 just so you know. So please be 100% frank.

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Re: Ban Appeal and don't understand...

Postby sin67 » Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:18 pm

Yes I understand - I didn't do anything - it must have been my ISP?? I'm pretty sure I've played over a 1000 games on my main account so wouldn't risk it by purposely doing anything dodgy. We're not talking life and death here what's the big deal with just unbanning me this once and if I do it again go nuts and ban me for the next decade?!

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Re: Ban Appeal and don't understand...

Postby Essenze » Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:35 pm

Dodging is a major offense @sin67 and there's not much you can say/do about it because like i said, we monitor everything. Unless your internet provider went down a while due to a maintenance or anything like it, or you turned your modem/router off and on for whatever reason, your IP changed. Again, be 100% frank if you want a ban lifted.

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Re: Ban Appeal and don't understand...

Postby sin67 » Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:44 pm

I'll be Frank or Jenny or whoever you want me to be...I DID NOT change my IP purposely....you can grill and push me as much as you want but the fact is I didn't change it purposely.

Your monitoring I'm sure has no idea whether it has been changed purposely or not so surely the benefit of the doubt goes with the player. Innocent until proven guilty and all that.

I created different accounts but clearly those were banned too - figured it was good timing to create a new one as my ELO sucked anyway

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Re: Ban Appeal and don't understand...

Postby CheW » Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:05 pm

You created a new account and your ip changed. That is ban dodging.

If you say you didn't know, the day before you started dodging your ban you tried to join a game 5 times and it told you that you were banned.
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Re: Ban Appeal and don't understand...

Postby Desire » Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:56 pm

@sin67

Here's my advise (knowingly you knew when your flaming expired). If you know how long your ban for and can still somehow make an new account and play while you know you are ban. It's considered dodging.

Now I can't say you did it on purpose but if you did just admit it and say your sorry for not knowing what dodging is.

Dodging is a major offense and I hope you understand now.
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Re: Ban Appeal and don't understand...

Postby sin67 » Thu Jul 27, 2017 9:15 pm

I realise dodging is clearly a major offense now but I'm not going to apologise for something I didn't do in terms of changing my IP

In terms of not knowing what dodging is why would I say sorry for something I didn't know about and didn't do on purpose?

Sure I created a new account but clearly this doesn't avoid the ban - I played on non-ENT servers

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Re: Ban Appeal and don't understand...

Postby sin67 » Thu Jul 27, 2017 9:21 pm

Also looking back on the below - why wouldn't I have just dodged the ban straight away after trying to join 5 times - how does that make sense that I waited until the next day?

'If you say you didn't know, the day before you started dodging your ban you tried to join a game 5 times and it told you that you were banned.'

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Re: Ban Appeal and don't understand...

Postby CheW » Fri Jul 28, 2017 2:52 pm

You have 1500 games on our bot, 1 name. You are banned and then you create a new account. Then a little while after you created your new name your IP changes. That is ban dodging. You can argue whatever you want, but your IP changed and your account changed, hence the ban dodging.
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