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Ban Appeal

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 11:56 am
by voodoo_chile
Your Warcraft III username: Felhound
Realm/Gateway: Europe
Why are you banned: vk fail tid 109017
Why you should be unbanned: I disconnected from the game, so I don't know why I'm even banned.

Re: Ban Appeal

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 12:50 pm
by Max-Well
This is the request that got u banned: viewtopic.php?t=109017 . Looks like there was a kick against a rule violator and you did only vote yes in one of six attemts.

Re: Ban Appeal

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 12:50 pm
by voodoo_chile
Because I lost connection I wasn't in the game when the other votekicks happened. How can i vote when im not in the game?

Re: Ban Appeal

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 12:56 pm
by Max-Well
I watched the chat log. Your right your dropped out. But before your dropped out there were 3 attempts to kick and u just voted one.

@BeerLord what do you say?

Re: Ban Appeal

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 1:04 pm
by voodoo_chile
I didn't vote in the first two because it wasn't clear whether he deserved it or not. This is ridiculous...

Re: Ban Appeal

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 1:12 pm
by Max-Well
I passed the topic to BeerLord cause he is the one who banned you. Please wait for him he will handle this topic.

Re: Ban Appeal

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 3:00 pm
by BeerLord
Yes I was aware you lagged out at min 14. Your first vote was at 1322.
(13:22 / All) Felhound: !yes
This player asked in all chat at min 8 to be kicked, and he intentionally fed you at your tower at 945 by walking right up to you and following you around your tower. I banned you because you were aware of the need and failed to vote on the first two attempts. You are obligated to votekick game ruiners. Out of all of the sentinel players, you should have been the most inclined to vote to kick since you were the one he fed at the start of the game. Your failure to vote, as well on your silence regarding the intentional feed (i think your allies would have been helped by you commenting on that with respect to the votekick attemps) was problematic. I apologize for the typo "6". It should have read 3.

Re: Ban Appeal

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 8:12 pm
by voodoo_chile
The facts stands that I voted to kick, and I'm not obliged by rules to tell my team mates to kick anyone. I got a ban for disconnecting and then I got an additional 2 days ban for not typing !yes in first 2 votekicks? I was willing to votekick and draw after I saw he continued feeding, but I guess that doesn't matter. While the others who played a full game with the feeder got a 1 day ban? Your logic is flawed, I doubt you're capable of being a moderator/admin (whatever).
BeerLord wrote:This player asked in all chat at min 8 to be kicked

This is irrelevant.

Re: Ban Appeal

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 8:41 pm
by BeerLord
By itself the quote is irrelevant, but in the context of the game it made all players aware of a potential problem, and when combined with his action of intentionally feeding made it clear to all players the need to be kicked. Your isolation of specific quotes rather than considering the totality of the issue does not make a very good argument for your appeal.

I did not ban you to punish you, but rather in the hopes of bringing you here to clarify the responsibilities of players with respect to votekicking game ruiners. I am happy to unban you when I feel we have accomplished this.

Re: Ban Appeal

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:40 pm
by voodoo_chile
BeerLord wrote:
I did not ban you to punish you, but rather in the hopes of bringing you here to clarify the responsibilities of players with respect to votekicking game ruiners.

The fact stands that I did vote to kick him. I still don't see the reason why I'm banned.

Re: Ban Appeal

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:28 pm
by BeerLord
My opinion is that you waited too long to vote, that you should have voted on the first two. Or, at the least, on the second one.

Re: Ban Appeal

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:40 pm
by BeerLord
Well, this is taking longer to resolve than it should, since I didnt see that you had posted a response. I dont necessarily need you to agree with me since this was sort of a judgement call, but I would like you to consider in future a faster response to game ruiners.
Fair enough?
Unbanned.
@voodoo_chile