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Postby johannesburg » Mon May 06, 2019 5:57 pm

Your Warcraft III username: Johannesburg
Realm/Gateway: ENT
Why are you banned: leaving TID: 141586 (leaving)
Why you should be unbanned:
Is this a permanent ban? I don't see a timeframe. My team asked me to leave for the sake of the game. People literally wrote "leave we won't report", i replied "now ?" a few times and after unanimous yes I left, please check.

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Re: Hi

Postby Unitil » Mon May 06, 2019 6:04 pm

Hello johannesburg,

please link us the general rules and the game specific rules of the game(s) you got banned in, and highlight the specific rule(s) you believe you violated.
You can find them on our wiki.

That way, we can ensure another rule-violation by you, caused by not-knowing the rules, will not happen again. After linking us to the rules, we expect you to have read them. Cooperating with us will have a positive effect on your ban duration.

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Re: Hi

Postby johannesburg » Mon May 06, 2019 6:11 pm

Hello,

It is the following rule located at http://wiki.entgaming.net/index.php?tit ... ming:Rules:
- Do not leave before the game has certainly ended, especially if no other player has left.

Understood.

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Re: Hi

Postby Astros » Mon May 06, 2019 6:31 pm

viewtopic.php?f=25&t=141099&p=545797#p545797

This previously happened under a different context but same reasoning. You were unbanned but you still chose to leave this game.
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Re: Hi

Postby johannesburg » Mon May 06, 2019 6:42 pm

Hi,

With all due respect, it was not exactly the same reasoning. In the previous case it was due to flaming towards me. In this case if you check the chat transcript, players actually wrote "Our only chance is for you to leave, leave we won't report", and after replying "now?" a few times and getting a unanimous yes I moved on. Honestly I didn't expect the ban, but now I get that the end result is the same, even if everyone approves.

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Re: Hi

Postby Astros » Mon May 06, 2019 6:46 pm

johannesburg wrote:Hi,

With all due respect, it was not exactly the same reasoning. In the previous case it was due to flaming towards me. In this case if you check the chat transcript, players actually wrote "Our only chance is for you to leave, leave we won't report", and after replying "now?" a few times and getting a unanimous yes I moved on. Honestly I didn't expect the ban, but now I get that the end result is the same, even if everyone approves.

Different context under the fact the first game you left was due to your teammate flaming you while this game, you left because you became a liability to your team.

Same reasoning due to the fact that you left both games when you shouldn't have.

"Post by johannesburg » April 5th, 2019, 7:05 pm
Thank you for your support. I understand that I actually usually use the !ignore command, its just that in this case it seems that its what was best for everybody. I hear you though.
I'll take your recommendation. These are the infringed rules:

General Rules
Do not leave before the game has certainly ended, especially if no other player has left.

Located here http://wiki.entgaming.net/index.php?tit ... ming:Rules

Thank you."

The rule is to not leave if the game hasn't officially ended - which you acknowledged on your previous appeal.
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Re: Hi

Postby johannesburg » Mon May 06, 2019 6:51 pm

Yes I understand that now. I somehow assumed that there wouldn't be any repercussions because it was a unanimous request, and I see that often in games... Was foolish, I get that there is just no exception and it shouldn't happen at all.

ps: I would appreciate some leniency if possible, I had a different understanding of the rule in light of the context, and I understand now that there is no exception. Thank you.

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Re: Hi

Postby Astros » Tue May 07, 2019 1:44 am

@johannesburg

Just so we have it clarified, you do understand that you should not leave games regardless of what your teammates are doing to you, yes? The rule is quite clear so it's quite repetitive to reiterate it multiple times.
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Re: Hi

Postby johannesburg » Thu May 09, 2019 10:24 pm

@Astros

Hey I just saw that message.
Well, ban will lift in a few hours, but yes that is understood as I mentioned.

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Re: Hi

Postby Astros » Fri May 10, 2019 2:52 am

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