2.34/2.35 Changelog

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Re: 2.34/2.35 Changelog

Postby Quetra » Thu Nov 03, 2016 3:24 am

By overpowered I mean value to cost ratio is strong. Even giving it 2 frigates + 1 caravel would be good


The value to cost ratio was already very strong at 2700 3 caravels. A 900 gold discount is pretty huge. The problem was the cost of saving up to 2.7k, and the gold sink like you say. Making it more valuable won't solve this. It will either make the wonder a must have to easily lock top, aka overpowered, or it will still cost too much to get.

Changing it to fireships is a bad idea, fireships are in a unique place where they come in and out of the meta.


Pent mass is the only strategy employed at top right now, and as such fireships are very useful. I would say they are firmly in the meta right now. I don't think they are leaving anytime soon as long as mass is a thing.

The change may not be as significant as you think.


2000 gold is far more easy to build than 2.7k. Iron works is a doable investment at 2400. Sometimes I have 2 caravels in top anyway. I would rather just build this wonder and save some gold. The cost reduction also makes it less of a 'gold sink'. The caravels will fall off later, but honestly the 400g saved in the stages where you would be getting caravels outweighs the cost in the lategame when the game is usually already decided.

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Re: 2.34/2.35 Changelog

Postby supersexyy » Thu Nov 03, 2016 3:40 am

There are many ways to buff something and I think keeping the 2700 cost gives it a niche characteristic. It's a 'do I do this, or this'.

And no, I don't think 3 frigs is a huge deal. Bottom lane can easily lock, top lane is easily swung. Do you want to lock bottom or get a gold efficiency advantage building the wonder top? It is a toss up and decisions will need to be made.

The fact that it is a gold sink is a GOOD thing, it creates strategy. Don't take away strategy when balancing, you should encourage strategy.

TL:DR Buff the strength, not reduce the cost!
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Re: 2.34/2.35 Changelog

Postby RaptorXI » Sun Nov 06, 2016 12:28 pm

Changelog from 2.35H looks good as a next step to me.

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Re: 2.34/2.35 Changelog

Postby Quetra » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:36 pm

Updated the post with the final version which will be submitted for upload.

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Re: 2.34/2.35 Changelog

Postby alteregok » Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:20 am

O.O So many changes. Finally a new version.

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Re: 2.34/2.35 Changelog

Postby XGDeath3 » Mon Nov 14, 2016 9:26 pm

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Re: 2.34/2.35 Changelog

Postby alteregok » Tue Nov 15, 2016 5:14 am

ya, it's me :) How have you been?

The new skins look nice, specially the Eiffel tower. Saint Michel's Abbey is quite op. The rest I'm not sure they'd be useful. I miss good old days when there were lots of ppl in the civ wars clan channel.

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Re: 2.34/2.35 Changelog

Postby RaptorXI » Tue Nov 15, 2016 6:56 am

Will see who is still there when they hype is over.


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