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Re: General Discussions

Postby Jamo » Wed Aug 02, 2017 2:36 pm

Ok, thanks for clarification Kiwi. I like your considerations and it sounds good to me.
And sure, it's all first season etc and one has to learn how things work. I was mostly curious about this case. I thought about doing it differently, like simply giving points for wins. But then you don't get any reward for a 2-1 (in case you lost), so I think that wouldn't be the better option. And by playing out 3 games in a bo3, the winning team would be demotivated anyhow and it would be a waste of time to go for 3-0 or 2-1... You pointed all that out nicely already, thx.
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Re: General Discussions

Postby Meshtar » Wed Aug 02, 2017 3:53 pm

There are some pros and cons to both ways, but I suppose you are right lets just test it out this season and see how it works. I don't believe it will make a huge difference either way ;)

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Re: General Discussions

Postby Meshtar » Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:49 pm

I just watched some games played, and I would like for moderators to emphasize the need for all teams to get acquainted with the rules. In this case its 1200+ rules which apply for the LTL. I see people in plenty of teams think it is allowed to sell 200g to better clog etc, which is obviously a lihl rule, not 1200+ rule. 1200+ rules clearly say , as you can see moderator @bezdak ruling in this case viewtopic.php?f=24&t=113898 and more info about it here viewtopic.php?f=43&t=113957&p=446408#p446408 , you can sell unlimited value to push, you can sell unlimited value to become leaker, but you cant sell anything in order to better clog. Please @Kiwi @FateStayNight @HugMeOnce @n1ll3 @Michonne can we do something about this so we can prevent complaints and stuff.

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Re: General Discussions

Postby bezdak » Sat Aug 05, 2017 7:59 pm

It is clearly written in the LTL rules that we play according to the 1200+ rules which everyone is supposed to know (captains' responsibility), so I don't think any further actions are required from the LTL staff
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Re: General Discussions

Postby KiwiLeKiller » Sat Aug 05, 2017 8:37 pm

Selling value at any point in the game in order to gain an advantage by stalling time on a racing level is forbidden.

I doubt any further clarification has to be made.
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Re: General Discussions

Postby Vendeta » Tue Aug 08, 2017 11:00 am

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=113898

This one was denied, but i think guy should have been banned. He didnt sell for push, he sold on level 11, so that he can leak that level, which gives him advantage in racing level.

But if we only talk about selling before racing level, thats dumb. Since u can make clog game from level 1. This was clear attempt of clog, and should have been punished. We really need new rule.
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Re: General Discussions

Postby Meshtar » Tue Aug 08, 2017 11:14 am

If racing level is 15, selling on 11 to push/become leaker is fine since it makes that team vulnerable to send 12, 13, and 14. Selling after 11 might become questionable. The rules are decent and it would be hard to make them any more specific to cover all the possible situations. Clog is still definitely an issue so the only thing to be done is to make clog less effective as strategy by changing game mechanics (buffing units, teleporting etc. ) as it is being discussed here viewtopic.php?f=72&t=114400

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Re: General Discussions

Postby Jamo » Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:28 am

Just a small thing: But I would really like, if in the "Game results" post there would be one additional field named "opponen team" or something like that. I like looking at the results but all I see is who won, not whom they played against. And it's actually annoying to open the Gameplan all the time. So, I would find this additional field very useful since it also does not require any amount of work :-)

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Re: General Discussions

Postby KiwiLeKiller » Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:31 am

Jamo wrote:Just a small thing: But I would really like, if in the "Game results" post there would be one additional field named "opponen team" or something like that. I like looking at the results but all I see is who won, not whom they played against. And it's actually annoying to open the Gameplan all the time. So, I would find this additional field very useful since it also does not require any amount of work :-)

Added it.

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Match #                                Date played:
Winners :                                         Losers :
Winner of the first game :
Link to the first game :
Winner of the second game :
Link to the second game :
Winner of the third game (if applicable) :
Link to the third game (if applicable) :
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Re: General Discussions

Postby dweiler » Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:57 am

Is it possible that the games in the knock-out phase are posted somewhere without spoilers? Would like to watch that replays without knowing who wins :D
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Re: General Discussions

Postby KiwiLeKiller » Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:26 am

@mickeythemousie
Great suggestion, implemented here: viewtopic.php?f=303&t=113670&p=462841#p462841

I hope this is what you meant :)
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Re: General Discussions

Postby KiwiLeKiller » Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:46 am

@mickeythemousie

Hmmmm I'm brain dead, you will see who won because the winners will post the results... I will create a separate thread later today
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Re: General Discussions

Postby dweiler » Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:57 am

Kiwi wrote:@mickeythemousie

Hmmmm I'm brain dead, you will see who won because the winners will post the results... I will create a separate thread later today


Lol, I did not consider that as well :lol:
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Re: General Discussions

Postby Jamo » Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:57 am

Maybe just make a separate thread for the replays just? Without any infos.
And results can simply be posted by moderators only. Won't be that many games anymore anyhow, so no problem.
But then one can keep a thread with all results as well.

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Re: General Discussions

Postby KiwiLeKiller » Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:49 am

@MickeyTheMousie @Jamo @Bezdak (since you thanked Mick's post, I guess you want to know what's up with it)

I changed it so that it will be moderators posting the results. This will prevent the issue I came up with at first. I also locked the topic so that people won't be able to post it themselves.
viewtopic.php?f=303&t=113670&start=45#p462841

What you guys think?
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