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Unprofessional behavior from a mod

Postby divinerape » Sat Sep 16, 2017 12:45 am

Not sure what the deal is, and not one to usually care, but this game really became very toxic from the very beginning because of all people one of ENT's moderators. Would like to bring it to the attention of the powers that be. Do with it as you wish but this is unacceptable behavior from a moderator.

https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=9785982


http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 785982.w3g

Quentin@uswest.

Also, I'm not sure what happened but he was lagging and in the end I got dropped, and not because I lost internet, but straight to lobby. I know the theory of drophacks is iffy at best but in this case it's pretty suspicious.

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Re: Unprofessional behavior from a mod

Postby HazarDous » Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:59 am

Can you be more explicit as to what behaviour you deem to be unacceptable? Provide concrete examples, quotes, timestamps, etc.

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Re: Unprofessional behavior from a mod

Postby divinerape » Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:15 am

Spoiler!
(00:14 / Allied) Quentin: omg this smash trash

(01:02 / All) Quentin: WHO MID?
(01:07 / All) Quentin: Will u give me challenge
(01:09 / All) Quentin: or not?
(01:11 / All) Quentin: plz tell

(01:34 / All) Quentin: i raped slark last game
(01:42 / All) Quentin: he cried so hard
(01:42 / All) Quentin: with my necro
(01:50 / All) Quentin: u can see replay on the website
(01:53 / All) Quentin: dota lesson

(02:23 / All) Quentin: why so mad leo?
(02:27 / All) Quentin: GAME DID NOT START YET
(02:30 / All) Quentin: plz chill
(02:31 / All) Quentin: bro

(02:51 / All) Quentin: u ok?
(02:52 / All) Quentin: scourge?
(03:01 / All) Quentin: liked that fb?
(03:19 / Allied) Settlers: !ignore quent
(03:23 / All) Quentin: OMG
(03:27 / All) Quentin: DONT LET GIRL SOLO MID
(03:28 / All) Quentin: GUYS
(03:29 / All) Quentin: COME ON
(03:30 / All) Quentin: plzz
(03:56 / All) Quentin: he went 0-8 invo
(04:00 / All) Quentin: last gae
(04:01 / All) Quentin: game
(04:06 / All) Quentin: no challenge
(04:08 / All) Quentin: to play him mid
(04:12 / All) Quentin: no fun honestly
(04:25 / All) Quentin: just ayin
(04:34 / All) Quentin: ur call though
(04:40 / All) Quentin: whatever u want

(04:41 / All) Quentin: is fine
(04:56 / All) Quentin: but dont cry later
(05:10) Quentin killed YouAreOnlyMy
(05:16 / All) Quentin: LOL
(05:18 / All) Quentin: U kidding me
(05:20 / All) Quentin: Right?
(05:23 / All) Quentin: is that a joke?
(05:25 / All) Quentin: not funny
(05:29 / All) Quentin: ffs

(14:24 / All) Quentin: yes back
(14:30 / All) Quentin: ur right
(14:35 / All) Quentin: u better do
(14:36 / All) Quentin: sk
(14:39 / All) Quentin: good move
(14:40 / All) Quentin: tbh

(15:52 / All) Quentin: ahahahah
(16:01 / All) Quentin: mouahahahah
(16:02 / All) Quentin: =D

(18:11 / All) Quentin: why so quiet
(18:12 / All) Quentin: plz
(18:13 / Allied) JackLord: how to mute him
(18:13 / All) Quentin: tell me
(18:16 / Allied) Settlers: !ignore quent
(18:18 / Allied) Tricorven: im b
(18:20 / Allied) JackLord: !ignore quent

(18:21 / All) Quentin: did u already ignore me all
(18:22 / All) Quentin: or what
(18:52) Tricorven killed hsnkiev
(19:04) YouAreOnlyMy killed Quentin
(19:07 / All) Quentin: OMG
(19:10 / All) Quentin: the feed is real

(26:23 / All) Quentin: gg guys
(26:25 / All) Quentin: u can ff
(26:29 / All) Quentin: it's over now

(30:33 / All) Quentin: sk more feeds?
(30:36 / All) FEAR: -unstuck
(30:36 / All) Quentin: or u done?

(31:06 / Allied) Quentin: stfu blue
(31:08 / Allied) Quentin: plz
(31:20 / Allied) Quentin: unstuck


(31:44 / Allied) Quentin: stop ruin on purpose
(31:46 / Allied) Quentin: or banned
(31:46 / All) FEAR: yes it i have no hero
(31:48 / Allied) Settlers: b
(31:48 / Allied) Quentin: for game ruining

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Threatens to ban me "for game ruining" when I don't have a hero 30 minutes into the game....
(31:56 / Allied) Quentin: play
(31:59 / Allied) Quentin: stop refuse to play now

^^ I'm OBVIOUSLY refusing to play... when I don't have a hero



Anyway, is this good enough for you or shall I start pulling his previous games which I took at look at and are even worse?
Last edited by HazarDous on Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:52 am, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: Added spoiler to make it easier to read.

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Re: Unprofessional behavior from a mod

Postby divinerape » Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:17 am

And before you say "just ignore him", I did, but let me just say that no one, not anyone should have to ignore a moderator because he is spamming bs in all chat literally all game

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Re: Unprofessional behavior from a mod

Postby HazarDous » Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:53 am

If there is more you wish to bring to our attention which is pertinent to this case, please provide evidence for it.

Also, try to make it as easy to read as possible; use our BBcodes like spoiler, code, or quote, and refrain from double posting.

Thanks.

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Re: Unprofessional behavior from a mod

Postby aRt)Y » Sat Sep 16, 2017 7:24 am

@Quentin Please comment.
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Re: Unprofessional behavior from a mod

Postby divinerape » Sat Sep 16, 2017 8:10 am

HazarDous wrote:If there is more you wish to bring to our attention which is pertinent to this case, please provide evidence for it.

Also, try to make it as easy to read as possible; use our BBcodes like spoiler, code, or quote, and refrain from double posting.

Thanks.



Pretty obvious if you care to take 1 minute to go through chat

http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 785770.w3g

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Re: Unprofessional behavior from a mod

Postby Quentin » Sat Sep 16, 2017 9:37 am

I am not sure what you want me to say considering I do not see any solid ground here...

Concerning his behavior:
- He picked a hero and never help the team from minute 0 until he dropped
- He ended up with only 2 assists
- He was refusing to play as a team like trax for the entire game
- I did not remember any timestamps but I recall that he was several times solo top lane when the entire team was middle or somewhere else
- At some point, he claimed to have lost his hero. I had the feelings that he continued his game throwing by afk on purpose and that he had hide his hero to an invisible spot on the map. I did not have time to search his hero thoughout the map so I told him to stop and play

Concerning his drop:
- I was playing on my iphone connexion because my wireless did not work
- I overpassed my fair use data on iphone a few days ago, so I had high ping and low speed...
- At some point, I lost connexion, so I unplugged and plugged my iphone cable to the laptop
- I reconnected with gproxy
- If anything wrong there, that must be him that tried to drop me out the game. But could not because I had gproxy

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Re: Unprofessional behavior from a mod

Postby Essenze » Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:28 pm

I watched it. First of all, Panda's game wasn't all that bad even if he farmed/pushed most of it. I honestly don't consider that as throwing. Secondly, Panda literally glitched hardcore at 27:00 mark. He was supposed to die after his pandas got killed (ult), but instead he just dissapeared from the map entirely. In the replay, his dot doesn't even appear, the camera is centered on Tree Of Life and the only way to fix it was to buy back. Lastly, Panda dropped and I suspect it was due to that glitch and the BB probably messed everything up thus causing him to drop.

Chat after Panda glitched:
Spoiler!
(28:40 / All) FEAR: so
(28:45 / All) FEAR: i died but no one got the kill or
(28:47 / All) FEAR: am i blind
(30:11 / All) FEAR: my hero
(30:17 / All) FEAR: so did not come back to life
(30:28 / All) Settlers: type -unstuck
(30:36 / All) FEAR: -unstuck
(30:41 / All) FEAR: its gone from the map completely
(30:44 / All) FEAR: and no countdown
(31:02 / Allied) FEAR: quentin
(31:06 / Allied) FEAR: can you kick me, my hero is gone

(31:06 / Allied) Quentin: stfu blue
(31:08 / Allied) Quentin: plz
(31:20 / Allied) Quentin: unstuck

(31:28 / Allied) FEAR: doesnt work
(31:30 / Allied) FEAR: it bugged

(31:44 / Allied) Quentin: stop ruin on purpose
(31:46 / Allied) Quentin: or banned
(31:48 / Allied) Quentin: for game ruining
(31:56 / Allied) Quentin: play
(31:59 / Allied) Quentin: stop refuse to play now

(32:14 / Allied) FEAR: gonna be submitting this for mod abuse, you've said enough this game
(32:34 / Allied) Quentin: reason?
(32:54 / All) FEAR: wow had to buy back
(33:50 / All) FEAR: FEAR has lost the connection (connection closed by remote host).
(33:50 / QUIT) FEAR: Disconnect


So conclusion, to me, is that Panda just glitched out and that Quentin went a bit too fast on calling it game ruining & threatening to ban. There was no admin powers involved during the game, btw.
Last edited by Essenze on Mon Sep 18, 2017 6:02 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: Unprofessional behavior from a mod

Postby Sylvanas » Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:54 pm

Quentin wrote:I am not sure what you want me to say considering I do not see any solid ground here...

Concerning his behavior:
- He picked a hero and never help the team from minute 0 until he dropped
- He ended up with only 2 assists
- He was refusing to play as a team like trax for the entire game
- I did not remember any timestamps but I recall that he was several times solo top lane when the entire team was middle or somewhere else
- At some point, he claimed to have lost his hero. I had the feelings that he continued his game throwing by afk on purpose and that he had hide his hero to an invisible spot on the map. I did not have time to search his hero thoughout the map so I told him to stop and play

Concerning his drop:
- I was playing on my iphone connexion because my wireless did not work
- I overpassed my fair use data on iphone a few days ago, so I had high ping and low speed...
- At some point, I lost connexion, so I unplugged and plugged my iphone cable to the laptop
- I reconnected with gproxy
- If anything wrong there, that must be him that tried to drop me out the game. But could not because I had gproxy

I didn't watch, but being panda, he was probably trying to farm radiance? Nothing out of the ordinary. Also, I'm sure no one drop hacked anyone. I mean duh, people just drop sometimes.

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Re: Unprofessional behavior from a mod

Postby Slomosapien » Mon Sep 18, 2017 5:38 am

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[ENT] DotA apem us/ca #30
(12:31 / Allied) frenchdotaplayy: can u fuking do something
(12:32 / Allied) frenchdotaplayy: fag
(12:32 / Allied) frenchdotaplayy: once
(12:34 / Allied) frenchdotaplayy: in the game?

[ENT] DotA apem us/ca #70
(04:39 / Allied) frenchdotaplayy: i have dumb fags
(04:41 / Allied) frenchdotaplayy: but this one
(04:43 / Allied) frenchdotaplayy: ...
(23:48 / Allied) frenchdotaplayy: ffs
(23:52 / Allied) frenchdotaplayy: what a fag

[ENT] DotA apem us/ca #60
(05:02 / Allied) ucanwin: fucking trash
(05:04 / Allied) ucanwin: uninstall
(13:30 / Allied) ucanwin: besides stealing my kills, what can u do
(13:31 / Allied) ucanwin: fag?

[ENT] DotA apem us/ca #95

(23:22 / Allied) dsk: stop feed fag

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Re: Unprofessional behavior from a mod

Postby AmnoN » Mon Sep 18, 2017 11:46 pm

I don't think the issue here is so much the abuse of mod powers, but the attitude which is held at a higher standard as a moderator.

@slomosapien Are the players that you mentioned the same as the moderator in question?

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Re: Unprofessional behavior from a mod

Postby Slomosapien » Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:15 am

@Amnon yes. I don't know all the accounts but those ones are his/hers.
Abuse of mod powers was brought up and addressed in a previous ban appeal IIRC.

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Re: Unprofessional behavior from a mod

Postby AmnoN » Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:27 am

@slomosapien In that case, in addition to reviewing some other recent games, I would agree that this is unacceptable behaviour for a mod. That being said, there was not "abuse of power" here unless you have evidence of using in game commands such as !kick, etc.

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Re: Unprofessional behavior from a mod

Postby Quentin » Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:29 pm

Hello,

I am confused. How can that be considered "unacceptable"? It had no impact whatsoever on anyone.

As a matter of fact, nobody was affected by it by any means:
1) Nobody said anything in the game about it, which I would obviously have taken into consideration on first notice.
2) Even OP did not see it during the game, but only after, because he ignored before the game even started.

Not to mention that I was not playing on my moderator account with spoof name where anyone knows me but only on an unknown realm with a smurf accounts that played only 2 games (Uswest).

Actually, the issue here is that OP often ignores his teammates instead of trying to communicate and speak:
viewtopic.php?f=25&t=117547 => He got banned for the same issue.

Concerning the other accounts mentioned by Slomosapien: I could not find those games, but these accounts did not play any game for the last 2 months. Even if it was me, 1 word per game can not be considered "excessive".

Best regards,
Quentin.


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