Regarding autobalance

[we-giv-up-u-win]

Hello, this post is regarding this thread: https://entgaming.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=68181

Is there a way to make this voteable instead of automatic? I just got kicked off my friend's team last night and had very little fun in the game as a result. I can only think of two civ war players who honestly believe players care about elo. Unfortunately, those people are the vocal ones on this forum that try to speak for the rest of us and make changes. Elo is a thing of the past in civ wars. The community is not big enough to make it accurate in any sense. I think most people will be upset with the autobalance.

And as a preemptive response to complaints about stacking: yes stacking happens. No, elo is not the goal in a stacked game, the goal is to NOT play a hopeless game with people who refuse to listen. Those games are simply a waste of time and we should not be forced to play them by way of auto"balance". Civ wars is easily thrown by one player and a real autobalance is simply not possible. 3v3s with knowledgeable players still happen regularly I don't understand what prompted this autobalancing change.

Thanks for your time.

[RaptorXI]

And the games you have fun are?
Can call it playing for win, if not playing for elo...

[we-giv-up-u-win]

3v3s with knowledgeable players still happen regularly

[RaptorXI]

With new players too?

[we-giv-up-u-win]

Influx of new players has been slow for a loooong time don't pretend that it is a result of a balancing problem. That said, there are occasionally players who will come along willing to learn and make big strides very quickly.

[RaptorXI]

No, not because of a balance problem, but free wins in my opinion are as a boring as playing vs 3 pros with a handicap.

[supersexyy]

I find most games have 3 pro players stacking to one side. Even if I join no player wants to even the teams even when requested. I'm not in the mood to play 1v3 so I'll go next (which nowadays means playing a dif map altogether). The game ends as 3 noobs vs 3 pros and is a stomp.
The story of 80% of civ games.

[we-giv-up-u-win]

Is there a way to make the autobalance voteable, though? There will be people who will quit the game if forced to play with nonresponsive teammates.

[nabo.]

There are pros and cons to doing autobal.

Play it out for a week at least and see how it goes first.

[I_kill_satan]

This shuffling players not make "balance" at all in civ wars, please get it back. No need to waste a week. I prefer not play it at all than play in random spot, with non-cooperative players who refuse to listen and in team with flamers.

[doubletech]

The problem with auto balancing is that not everyone join game to play mid or top or bot.
Lots of player wish to play the lane of their choice and since it its generally accepted that which ever color you are is the lane your in , balancing actually makes people like myself not want to play a lot of the time. Although i see why people would want auto balance, it is doing more harm than good.
I think you should definitely put it to a vote. I would be fine if the vote are in either favor as long as there's a vote before implementing this auto balance permanently .

[we-giv-up-u-win]

I was going to wait a week before posting but since other opinions are being expressed I will write my main issues with autobalance as well:
1. As doubletech mentioned, lanes get changed up. This is the biggest issue I see and it is NOT inconsequential in civ wars. If teal goes bottom and top gets rushed successfully, all of a sudden you have two players taken out of the game instead of one. This is the main reason why lane stealing was an issue long before autobalance. Additionally, not everybody is fit to mid and I have already had games where someone was forced to play mid who didn't want to.
2. Can't readily play with friends.
3. The amount of smurfs will sky rocket. Having high elo will simply mean you are punished by having to play with new players more often.
These are the main issues I have with autobalance, and as you can see none of them have to do with stacking. Civ wars in general is not conducive to autobalance.

[RaptorXI]

Did autobalance change activty @ Ent16 ?

[nabo.]

@raptorxi

210 games have been played the past 7 days. So no, activity has not gone down nor up.

[we-giv-up-u-win]

Can we get this removed please? Most the regular players have been complaining even if they are not active on this forum. I am much more interested in keeping regular players happy than the new players who may play 1 or 2 games and we never see them again - whether or not they are stacked against. The balancing doesn't even work because people change their names too often, myself included. Lane stealing is at an all time high, too, because people are forced into the position who can't do it. I am very adamant about not lane stealing and even I have found myself taking mid from people who are not equipped to play it.