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Re: Battleships rules

Postby uakf.b » Sat Jun 14, 2014 6:45 am

@mich_vee abusing obvious glitches is covered by general rules.
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Re: Battleships rules

Postby mich_vee » Sat Jun 14, 2014 6:59 am

I understand however a lot of battleship players are unaware of glitches being abused in their games. Since the -zoom normal glitch was included in specific BS Rules I thought the lumber glitch also needs to be included in the bs rules

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Re: Battleships rules

Postby tom_b » Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:46 am

If you lose to non-stop suicide tactics, I feel like you're playing it wrong (on even teams), as you either should a) be getting massive free gold from the suicider or b) be winning every teamfight and 5 people demolish a base faster than 1 guy.

When its 2v5 and you're the team of two, yeah it sucks. But what are you going to do about the rules? Its either no BD and screw the team of 5 or yes BD and screw the team of 2.

1) House games don't (in general) have enough leavers to force 2v5.
2) Being at a team of 5 depends heavily on when the leavers happened and how far appart. Having 3 people leave at once 5 min in is far different than 3 people leaving in 5 minute intervals at minute 15/20/25. This really goes back to the earlier point on which side you want to screw


I never said the teams were fair, and even with a massive gold advantage it even more so incentivises the enemy to just base zerg rather than teamfight, against which there is nothing you can do. You can't push, or they BD. You can try defend, but they will just suicide zerg instead. Its stupid for the same reason 5v5 SRS jug is stupid, there is no reason to even bother attacking the enemy when you can run straight to base.

Hypothetical scenarios aside, I don't really believe its in the spirit of the game to ignore enemy players and simply go after structures. Also, I reiterate my position that it's really not difficult to push creeps before attacking structures. Clear creeps = not BD. I don't see how this is unfair or unreasonable as a requirement, even in a leaver gold situation.

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Re: Battleships rules

Postby Stealer » Sat Jun 14, 2014 1:30 pm

Spirit of the game is to win, you're a fucking pirate.
Honestly, show some replays. If the team being backdoored is really stronger they should be able to push to win.

More importantly, I read through the chat of like your last 10 games and saw 0 complaints against backdooring or really anything but your teammates. These strategies you're trying to get banned don't seem like they happen.

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Re: Battleships rules

Postby tom_b » Sat Jun 14, 2014 4:59 pm

Cambrioleuse wrote:Spirit of the game is to win, you're a fucking pirate.
Honestly, show some replays. If the team being backdoored is really stronger they should be able to push to win.

More importantly, I read through the chat of like your last 10 games and saw 0 complaints against backdooring or really anything but your teammates. These strategies you're trying to get banned don't seem like they happen.


Thank you for taking the time to read through and analyse the chat transcript of my last 10 games. Though flattering you've taken the time to do so, It's quite clear your reading comprehension is somewhat limited, evident by how blatantly you've ignored my past 2 posts detailing why simply being able to "push to win" often isn't an option.

Just because I don't complain about BD on a game-to-game basis doesn't mean it isn't an issue. If anything, the fact that I don't complain as vehemently as you might like might imply a general acceptance of the lack of policing/rule enforcement on the bot. I simply don't have the time or effort to submit a ban request every game due to some infringement which I can usually overcome, regardless of legality. I'd rather play TBH.

This and your last shitpost (viewtopic.php?f=9&t=32621) meant absolutely nothing, and i'm still not entirely sure what kind of point you're trying to propagate other than the fact that I'm in the wrong. I'd welcome an actual discussion as to why, rather than simply stating your unsupported opinion.

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Re: Battleships rules

Postby uakf.b » Sat Jun 14, 2014 6:27 pm

Please post a separate topic to propose rules changes, this one is cluttered.
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