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I went to do some testing for lvl 18 holders. The results might surprise you. Recommended value for this level is 5000.

Here are tested units sorted from best to worst:
1. To hold 18 with pure butchers I needed 3060 value (7 butchers + zombie), 2870 value leaked 5 units. Absolutely incredible performance comparable with ea on lvl 13.
----Edit 8/19/2020: in 3.44i 2460 value (6 butchers) holds (2 rows by 3 or oracle build), adds like witchdoc, parasite or troll makes them super OP.
2. Pure doppelganger with 3640 value (8 of them) leaked 1 creep (very luck dependent unit tho).
3. 3870 value of master of fire (upped druid, 9 of them) held.
4. With trident I needed 3870 Value (9 of them), very luck dependent unit and considering the perfect armor/att composition, its result is kinda disappointing.
5. To hold with LoD, I needed 3900 (13 of them). LoD > hades for this level.
6. 3980 value of cavaliers (9 cava + a knight) was needed, kinda luck dependent units also.
7. To hold 18 with pure blasters I needed 4000 value (10 blasters).
8. 3965 value of ToT (13 upped + 1 small) leaked 2 units.
9. 4000 value of wolves (16 of them) barely held. The most luck dependent unit of them all
10. 3900 value of warchiefs leaked 8 units, however 4200 held with huge mid. Let's say you need 4150 here Test with thralls went in a similar way, but in normal conditions I'd go for thrall rather for tanking abilities and dmg behind.
11. Pure GoD with 4160 value (13 GoDs) leaked 3 creeps.
12. To hold 18 with pure spawns I needed 4240 value (16 spawns).
13. With ancient wandigoo 4300 value was needed (10 units).
14. Neotanks needed 4320 value. Neos > doomsday on this level.
15. To hold 18 with pure oceanus I needed 4500 (!!!) value(almost full 3 rows). Aqua/oceanus absolutely blows lvl 18.
16. Krogoths needed 4610 value (9 of them + a cyborg).

Keep in mind I ran all the tests only once so aggro and spawn luck are a big factor there, that doesn't change the fact that aqua is awful and butcher absolutely stunning tho Testing conditions were 1v1-like, therefore in 4v4 these values needed should be even less and I can totally see 2870 butcher guy in mid

ofc a solo-aqua is going to suck ... its a dps-unit and needs tanks in the front. im quite sure with a combo of butcher + aqua u need even less value then pure butcher.

SLSGuennter wrote: ... im quite sure with a combo of butcher + aqua u need even less value then pure butcher.

Hihgly doubt it since butcher is a 3- hit unit and aqua is a small splash damage dealer. Can give it a try, however I see 0 synergy of those two.

EDIT: as I've said, 3080 value - 4 butchers + 8 oceanus - 13 leaks, nowhere near of holding... 2800 value of pure butchers did much better.
EDIT 2: Added wolves to the list.

Aqua is confirmed op on 18, but as Gunni said, it needs a tank.

how are you running these simulations? can you link to the test map?

Type -debug in single player ltd

Update:
Added Master of fire, LoD, ToT, wc and neotanks into the list.

Could you test with EA, turrets, machine robot, warden and some of the new units (Ambassador of darkness)? Thanks

Also against a send on 18 you'd be better off with dps units rather than tanks. So butchers on 18 aren't really compared on ea on 13.

supersexyy wrote:Also against a send on 18 you'd be better off with dps units rather than tanks. So butchers on 18 aren't really compared on ea on 13.

he said 3k of butchers, im assuming u can put 1.5k in w/e else dps u want behind it lol

If anyone cares about this anymore, ambassador of darkness holds 18 with 10 of them (3400 val), 5 pure darkness (3500 val) also holds.