[Official] DotA Player Behavior Reports & Improvement Submissions

[MIKEJONES]

Friends? lmfao. Do I look like goku to you?

Don't get it twisted, I only gave you the courtesy since you were an admin here at one point contributing to the server and is one of the better players here.

Don't pull Mike into this, you sound bitter for various reasons. You posted and I responded.

Explain to me where I was mad? I told freemywilly guy to stop talking to me as he feeds off your comments and you simply just ignored me out of frustration.

You seem to throw a major tantrum frequently when you are losing and that shit is tiring.

You come at me and I'll give it back to you. You don't get enough of those on here and you definitely been feeling yourself, super comfortable saying whatever the fuck you want ever since.

Don't bro me either, that sounds disgusting coming out of your mouth.

"Yup, I agree. Maxipads on me next time for the troubles."

You act like I'm saying anything different that I wouldn't say otherwise to other garbage players, which you are.

Your pudge fucking sucks, period.

Major tantrum? All I said is you suck, lmao. You say stay away from Mogu but at least he buys wards and shit. You don't buy shit and just feed. You say far worse but the negative is you are worse than half the players you report. Maybe at least 80% of them are better than you, actually. Trader is 100% better than you. Mechanically, Jazzy is also better than you. Hexar is probably better than you but he randoms often. You play like 3 heroes and still suck ass. You disagree that you suck? Find 5 players who can vouch for your gameplay. You can't.

Take for instance, this game:
http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 256569.w3g

1/12, doing nothing but suiciding. Hooking a full HP Abbadon to start a fight with him still having his ultimate. It's like you don't even have a strategy to your pudge. Just do stupid shit and expect people to accept it. Zero wards, btw.

Just be honest, I made you mad. You thought we are cordial so when I said something bad to you, you're starting with the 'Astros is having his period' nonsense. I don't have an issue with you other than your gameplay is dogshit and I've never seen you do anything to help your team win. Truth is, you really do suck. Look at everyone in that same game literally saying "Does caffrey ever have a good game". Nimbus is just afraid to say it but he knows you suck too.

Aren't you the same guy who used to make names ending with a z like tribez or some shit? I've been saying you are garbage for a long ass time. Every game with your pudge is just laughably bad. You must be wearing a pirate patch or something. At least do what you used to do and pick earthshaker so you can be useful.

"sound bitter"

Nah, been meaning to actually say you suck ass for a while but came across that request against you where you deliberately ruin another game and then report others for much lesser behavior shows you're just a POS who thinks you're immune. I said far worse to andeng but you seem to think I'm targeting you. If you suck, I'll talk shit. Just the truth.

This post aims to facilitate constructive discussions about player performance and improvement. I appreciate the respectful exchanges here, keeping toxic language to a minimum. My perspective is that @mk4r32’s apparent underperformance, whether playing Pudge or other heroes, often stems from mood swings. There are moments when he mentally checks out early in the game, feeling the team can’t recover or win. This behavior can make him seem less skilled, but mechanically, I've seen him capable of outperforming myself and other players. I’ve spoken with @mk4r32, and he acknowledges areas for improvement. Let’s move forward and encourage new discussions about other players’ gameplay or in-game behavior to continue on fostering growth.

[h3rmit]

I'll mention this here since it still seems relevant.

After monitoring the new stats page over a few weeks, I noticed that the farm rating was inflated and felt unnatural for all players. After rechecking, it turned out that the long-term community average had been incorrectly calculated (around half than it should have been), resulting in everyone's farm rating being inflated.

Also the escape rating (opposite of death) was not reflected correctly in the monthly graph. Furthermore, to eliminate some unnatural spikes in the graph, I excluded months with less than 3 games played, as they are not indicative of a player's performance.

Now everything feels more in scale with reality.

A few examples:

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What should be noted is that according to the data, most players' performance stays consistent over time, especially when there's a sufficient large sample. Strategies can always improve (e.g. positioning, teamplay, warding, etc), but it looks like skill itself mostly remains consistent.

Also, some deductions can be made about what a player can generally focus to improve in their gameplay, in each player's overview and heroes page.
A few examples:

• hexar needs to focus on getting more kills
• jazzy3113 could use some more farm and kills
• superballer could reduce some of his farm to focus on getting more kills or assists instead

[Snells]

Jazzy won't work on farm, that would take away from him talking.

Oh, and he is also "700 elo", as he likes to remind people.

[Jazzy3113]

[Jazzy3113]

Jazzy won't work on farm, that would take away from him talking.

Oh, and he is also "700 elo", as he likes to remind people.

You know what’s hilarious? All this interesting research hermit has done has shown what I’m always complaining about.

That I am an average player, but my elo is the lowest of pretty much all players. How can that be?

Everyone says I ruin, but hermits stats show that is not the case. An average player should be around 1k or 950 elo, yet I’m 700. How’s that possible? Think about it, an average player with average distribution of teammates should win half the games and be average elo, yet I’m like one or two standard deviations away from the mean elo.


In fact just look at my last ten games. When I win, I have to play well. Theres never a game where I go 0-10 and get carried. And when I’ve won recently, the other team played normal and did not have a clear ruiner.

But look at recent losses. There is always some moron who who ruins. Always. So either I have to play well and get a competent team, or I have no shot.

In summary, my stats say I’m average and trending up in skill, yet my elo remains below players like Pegasus and firefly and Zika and Nick best and master pain and hexar. The only reasonable explanation is that people don’t try on my team or outright troll.

Look at my two most recent losses as a solid example. In one loss, the moron went 0-11 and the cowards on the other team refused to kick. I always kick the ruiner, but the opponent never kicks my ruiner. Ever.

And the other loss was due to 0-6 leo who was so bad he got banned.

And finally, look at the games. 1 out of 5 I’m the best on my team. Have you ever, EVER, seen Pegasus or hexar or Zika perform the best? Cause I never have.

[EdteOfChaos2]

You should pull the chat logs from the game and then sentiment analysis them to give everyone a rank for flaming their own team.

BTW h3rmit already said you're wrong here:

In average, Zjarr seems to be performing a little worse when he's your enemy, than when he's your ally.

Yes, you read that correctly.
Zjarr (and most other players too) play BETTER on your team than when they're against you. They lose more anyways because they still can't carry you.

[Jazzy3113]

You should pull the chat logs from the game and then sentiment analysis them to give everyone a rank for flaming their own team.

BTW h3rmit already said you're wrong here:

In average, Zjarr seems to be performing a little worse when he's your enemy, than when he's your ally.

Yes, you read that correctly.
Zjarr (and most other players too) play BETTER on your team than when they're against you. They lose more anyways because they still can't carry you.

If you have time, scan the game from my recent ban request.

I don’t say one word to the ruining Leo. Not one word all game.

Then before he rage afks/quits, he insults me and says he ruined because of me. So even when I follow collective advice and try to ignore the ruiner, they still ruin and even, as in this case, admit it’s to fuck me.

Just peruse the chat log of the game if you don’t believe me.

[Frank]

Self-fulfilling prophecy

[lex-]

Sorry I'm not average player because I play with a small laptop 14 inches. Hard to control keyboard and some glitches. I just play here once in a while, I hope you guys will understand. Peace out lol.

[Defiler01]

I know everyone likes to argue on here, but at the end of the day, we're one big happy family! <3

[mk4r32]

Pay seems like a nice guy but he has been ruining a lot lately. He goes midas on all heroes and farms til eternity. And randomly goes in 1v5 feeding.

Ar least this works with geo at times when he’s back dooring but he needs to stop playing non-geo heroes like this.

Please talk to the guy.

[RichardCoffee]

Nubidubi. You all need to have "the talk" with him. And no, I'm not talking about the birds and bees.

I thought complaints about him were exaggerated. But he really does do random throws sometimes. Claimed in the past to play drunk sometimes, which may explain it.

[Mr_Fagg0t]

hey, sorry for my bad english.. I've been playing here on and off since 2017 or smtg and I am not here to say I am such a nice guy and everyone isn't because I am doing some wrong things while playing dota too.so I am saying all this including myself. even though I am doing many things wrong I am trying to be friendly and respectful to my teammates. I am here to say there are some dota players very toxic to their teammates and secure the loss from the beginning which is not fair for the rest.they has been trash talking to their teammates, bullying them, blaming everyone on the team but themselves, writing from in-team chat 'you guys all trash'(but himself ofc) for years and it disturbs me. maybe because I played basketball and soccer most my life and coming from team culture, I can't keep my cool when someone so easily degrade their teammates. I am doing this very rarely as well but when it comes to teammates I always try to be more careful and friendly. just like I did years ago, I want to expose those friendly-fire type of teammates and some others one more time...


Violator : TRADER

Behavior : The most toxic person on dota easily. Always unpleasant and never care about other peoples feelings, blame others, I never seen any exceptional play by him. He didn't even be an x-factor on any game. 5/10 player throwing intelligence insults on and on and admins let it slide by years.

Solution : When you consider his past, not only he should ban on dota, dude shouldn't be allowed to play any multiplayer game for others people sake



Violator : Eldiabloblanco nowadays Hidan

Behavior : One of the worst teammates ever. Never seen doing any extra, always behind the kill/die ratio, talk trash to teammates, bring the mood down, !ff quick. Nothing positive about him.


Solution : He can try to make peace with the players he insulted. Because it was not enough reason already. His beef is unnecessary and he should be more productive. Rather than pointing finger to lose the attention on him, he can accept his role and be beneficial. But to be honest I am not seeing it coming...



Violator : Jabingo, FreeMYwilly, Saltysacks brother I guess andy. sorry if I am mistaken. Jabingo and saltysack are the names I am sure.

Behavior : Jabingo comes to the lobby as a jokemaker funny cool guy. He make some friends in the lobby with his approacable personality. In game, just 1 mistake, he becomes your biggest nemesis. non stop insulting , try to act like the lonely wolf. sometimes it even turns him vs his teammates. He is a dangerous type.

Solution : I really don't know how to approach on this. I make sure when it happens twice. since then I don't like him. he is not a trustable person. sorry to say this.




Violator : Elcupra55 don't know his current name

Behavior : quickest !ff in the whole universe. no one can ff faster than this guy. his routine was picking spectre and ff at 8.

Solution : Patience and consistency




Violator : Jazzy3113

Behavior : Unpleasent, blaming others. Always unlucky, never his fault.

Solution : When I read his post this week it really makes me unhappy and I decided to not talk trash back to him. instead, I am playing my best game on his team to help his paranoid feelings like everyone is against him.




Violator : Ryjax Jaydin or smtg. If those 2 is not the same guy sorry.

Behavior : Because he is really talented and knows the elite gameplays , he is expecting all of us to play as sharp as him which is not possible. Starts degrading and ff even when is he winning.

Solution : He might be so good but this is an average peoples server he should understand that. Instead talking smack he could be more of a leader but he is not a leader , dude is just a good scorer I guess...




Violator : Desertisland

Behavior : pulls our creeps to his natural fight and make our tower destroyed in minute 2 always. I warned him like 1234324 times about this, he doesn't care. Also he left the team at teamfights lately. That must be his last joke.

Solution : I couldn't find, hope someone else can.

[Astros]

So since it's not feasible to ban every low level player (correlated with low IQ), what if there was a new rule that the lowest ELO player on every team must buy wards when asked upon?

If their excuse is they are trying a new hero, are lagging, don't know how to use the spells, are not paying attention, etc., the only solution to compensate for their low IQ shenanigans is to force them into doing something that requires zero brainpower, zero talent, and practically zero effort on their part.

13IQtowin is garbage but it is compounded by the fact that he provides no value to the team whatsoever. At least if these low level players were forced to buy wards, there is a base level of contribution from them every game.

It would take 75 seconds for them to save enough gold for obs without even doing anything. If they cannot do this at the minimum, it shows they were never willing to help the team to begin with.

This would also be in their benefit because they would probably be reported less often since they are at least contributing to buying wards and the team would acknowledge that even if they are a bad player, they still helped with a very important aspect of the game.

[EdteOfChaos2]

For these real trashcans we should have a limited amount of heroes they are allowed to play. Or at least ban them from playing stupid things like Techies (yes it can be played effectively but not in the way they do it). Even Superballer can play a decent Ogre and even Jazzy can play a decent Husk.