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Re: Halp@Useast

Postby TinSoldier » Tue Oct 24, 2017 5:21 pm

hes a pretty good HOE player, we gonna consider allowing him into HOEIHL so maybe we can consider allowing him in here too.
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Re: Halp@Useast

Postby 7years » Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:29 pm

Wolke wrote:I played some game with him so far. Skillwise it´s typical it´s critical for a new but there are worse player in lihl arm. What i clearly don´t like is his attidude and the way he communicates. no support from me.


can only agree. can't comment too much on skill since i've only played a handful of games so far with game @ lihl, but the way he talks and his attitude in general were pretty annoying in every single game I've had with him.

he tends to tilt super fast, blames others, judges builds, tries to control other lanes all the time etc. i'll give you just one example: in one game he flamed me for my build lvl 1, not even trying to understand what my plan was, he then proceeded to !ignore me from lvl 3 on for the rest of the game. when i asked him after the game why he did that, his argument was "so that i can't flame you the entire game" - then, of course, he flamed me some more. i don't care how big of a mistake someone makes (i did fuck up my math to be fair) - that kind of behaviour just doesn't belong in lihl, especially not from someone who is on trial.

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Re: Halp@Useast

Postby Im_Halp » Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:00 pm

So, here is the replay that 7yeahs is talking about: https://entgaming.net/replay.php?id=9945672
Below is my dissertation on the incident:
Spoiler!
So this is what happens, he has cavalier and is ganna b holder. The fact that he "never know" is a problem in of itself.
(01:15 / Allied) 7yeahs: knight solo holds 1?
(01:17 / Allied) 7yeahs: i never know
So that happens, no big deal nothing wrong. After some pingage I inform him:
(02:19 / Allied) Halp: u cant 2/0 w/ knights
(02:21 / Allied) Halp: ...
He tells me to relax
(02:33 / Allied) 7yeahs: i have a plan ok
okay; then Bezdak even chimes in.
(03:09 / Allied) Bezdak: Whatever u do, just pls make sure u 3 cavas 7
He misses 2nd cav on 3, by 1g. This is lihl and we can not math? so instead of flaming him for his second fail, which will bite us in the ass shortly, i ignore him.
On lvl 5 he has 1 cav and maverick, instead of 2 cavs and I believe we lose 1 or 2 heals because of this, as red was mid. Thankfully we had immo so we were saved from his tk on 7.
On top of this I made call for clog:
(25:26 / Allied) Halp: we go full anti 14
(25:28 / Allied) Halp: clog 15
(25:55 / Allied) Bezdak: Push pls
(27:33 / Allied) Bezdak: Clog 15
He starts to mass specters on lvl 14, I mean cmon how much tk is one supposed to make and everything be sunshine and rainbows. This kind of game play does not belong in lihl, my behavior of ignoring a teammate who is full on playing horrible is not something alien to lihl. Thankfully he ended up selling them but even still he had to be told to sell them. He was scared of lvl 14, so he massed specters; that says enough:
(30:40 / Allied) Bezdak: Sel spectres lol
(30:51 / Allied) Bezdak: Dude
(30:57 / Allied) Bezdak: We're clogging
(31:13 / Allied) 7yeahs: yeah but i was kinda scared about 14 here for a sec
As far as flaming him in our conversation, nothing of the sort happened lol.


7yeahs - Today at 4:58 PM
dude i supported your vouch request and u ignore me during trial?
Halp - Today at 4:59 PM
yea
u wanna know why
so i dont flame
because of ur mitsakes
which are bad mistakes
and because u support me am i supposed to just be okay with you making such mistakes?
u can go unsupport me if you want
but i would rather ignore you for 1 game
7yeahs - Today at 4:59 PM
you have no idea what youre talking about do you
Halp - Today at 4:59 PM
than flame u
ur joking?
ahhh
ur funny
Halp - Today at 5:00 PM
that was a good one
7yeahs - Today at 5:00 PM
first of all, ive seen you make mistakes like this so many times before
ive seen ALL lihl players make such mistakes before
Halp - Today at 5:00 PM
no
u have not
lol
so u start of
2/0 knight
7yeahs - Today at 5:00 PM
if we would ignoire each other every time this happens no one would be talking anymore at all
Halp - Today at 5:00 PM
which is bad idea
then
7yeahs - Today at 5:00 PM
how is that a bad idea?
Halp - Today at 5:00 PM
u miss 2nd knight
really?
how is 2/0 knight bad idea
if they warr
7yeahs - Today at 5:00 PM
please man, u dont need to school me on ltd
Halp - Today at 5:00 PM
u dont even break 100g
instead fo 150g
i shouldnt need to explain this to u
7yeahs - Today at 5:01 PM
i dont need 2nd knight for 2
Halp - Today at 5:01 PM
ur right
u need for3
7yeahs - Today at 5:01 PM
2nd knight for 2 wasnt the plan to begin with man
Halp - Today at 5:01 PM
and 2 cav for 5
neither of which happened
and ontop of that
u start massing specters
7yeahs - Today at 5:01 PM
well did i need it?
Halp - Today at 5:01 PM
when we call clog at 12
????
okay
bye
7yeahs - Today at 5:02 PM
this is exactly the reason why your vouch request got denied so many times
you are on trial man, you cant spread such toxicity




That is all the evidence, as clearly people are accustom to not providing it. As far as the other games, he had to be guided in multiple as he did not know when not to push or how to build or when to rr; things that someone accepted should not have to be told to do by a trial.

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Re: Halp@Useast

Postby bezdak » Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:45 pm

Well as a third side this game was super unpleasant rly - 7yeahs seemed a bit like he had no clue what he's doing the whole game, Halp instantly ignores for no reason, which certainly made the game unnecessarily harder. We've won that only cos of broken game :D
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Re: Halp@Useast

Postby Escaflowne » Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:02 am

You both were nabs back when I was doing 1200 regularly, so I don't really know about any of you'se skill nowadays. But what doesn't belong in lihl is "I supported your vouch request, now I'm in the never-to-be-criticized-club again". Really fuck that! Start behaving.
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Re: Halp@Useast

Postby 7years » Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:44 am

Escaflowne wrote:You both were nabs back when I was doing 1200 regularly, so I don't really know about any of you'se skill nowadays. But what doesn't belong in lihl is "I supported your vouch request, now I'm in the never-to-be-criticized-club again". Really fuck that! Start behaving.


I see what you mean and I totally agree. Maybe I should stress that me being kind of in support of his trial has nothing to do with my post earlier (if anything it proves that I had an open mind towards him).

Look, I don't mind getting criticized by anyone, I actually like getting advice from other players and will always ask for tips when in doubt. It's one of the reasons I joined LIHL to begin with - to improve at the game.

There is a big difference, however, between giving advice/tips/being helpful and raging/tilting way over the top and (in this specific example) ignoring a team mate for no apparent reason. I probably wouldn't have minded as much if that was a one time thing, but since he showed this kind of behavior in pretty much every game I had with him (not necessarily towards me but in general), I thought I should comment on it. Isn't that the whole point of a trial?

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Re: Halp@Useast

Postby HazarDous » Fri Oct 27, 2017 1:18 am

It's been 3 weeks, no decision has been made.

Postponing decision to ~2 weeks from now.

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Re: Halp@Useast

Postby Crazy_Skeleton » Fri Oct 27, 2017 6:03 am

Phantoms over yygs (same roll)... I asked 5 times wtf. I was told to calm down..

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Re: Halp@Useast

Postby KiwiLeKiller » Fri Oct 27, 2017 11:40 am

Crazy_Skeleton wrote:Phantoms over yygs (same roll)... I asked 5 times wtf. I was told to calm down..

So? I've seen people build GoD on the same row as cavaliers and it seems like it didn't matter. It's not like he went wandigoo instead of aqua or something, afaik he can still decide what he wants to build.
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Re: Halp@Useast

Postby Im_Halp » Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:04 pm

Crazy_Skeleton wrote:Phantoms over yygs (same roll)... I asked 5 times wtf. I was told to calm down..


From what i recall, i madr 1 hr to start, incase of warrs and added 3 ygg for 7. And if I am not mistaken we had another holder. So im not exactly what game u were watching but make sure u get ur facts straight before u come on here with that nonsense. Ill get the replay too if you want otherwise, as i said, calm down. Also, im not obligued to follow any commands you can make suggestions all you want but I have the ability to build how I want so long I dont tk. Clearly, this was not the case.

http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 945239.w3g

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Re: Halp@Useast

Postby Wolke » Fri Oct 27, 2017 10:30 pm

playing with him right now. His roll is basicly ygg and nothing special, the typical no brainer ygg start. He starts skeletor without even informing the team because he didn´t see our units and saw blaster hold which we didn´t had. When asked he responde rly rude.

Don´t vouche him ! :twisted:

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Re: Halp@Useast

Postby KiwiLeKiller » Fri Oct 27, 2017 10:35 pm

Wolke wrote:playing with him right now. His roll is basicly ygg and nothing special, the typical no brainer ygg start. He starts skeletor without even informing the team because he didn´t see our units and saw blaster hold which we didn´t had. When asked he responde rly rude.

Don´t vouche him ! :twisted:

Why would he have to inform the team he is going skele? Why wouldn't the non-holding blaster have to inform the team?
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Re: Halp@Useast

Postby Wolke » Fri Oct 27, 2017 10:45 pm

with ygg and skeletor i think team needs to be informed about not going 1 of the best and gamechaning units ingame. Even if he communicates that, i still consider this as a tk since he was not even close to recover and clear 15.

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Re: Halp@Useast

Postby Mind » Fri Oct 27, 2017 10:47 pm

if this is really lihl, there shud be no discussion about whether going skele over ygg was the right choice.


Spoiler!
(06:25 / Allied) Wolke: why you not start ygg
(06:36 / Allied) Halp: bc i didnt want to
(06:40 / Allied) Halp: i thought green wud blaster
(06:41 / Allied) MindMachine: ok
(06:42 / Allied) Halp: and i idnt see ea
(06:44 / Allied) MindMachine: that makes sense
(06:52 / Allied) Wolke: ofc.
(06:58 / Allied) Halp: if u got something to say
(06:59 / Allied) MindMachine: even if i blaster
(07:00 / Allied) Halp: u can say it
(07:02 / Allied) Halp: otherwise
(07:04 / Allied) Halp: play ur lane
(07:20 / Allied) Halp: -rolls
(07:21 / Allied) Wolke: you trial vouche
(07:27 / Allied) Halp: thats correct
(07:30 / Allied) Wolke: and ygg is clearly skeleton
(07:37 / Allied) Halp: ?
(07:43 / Allied) Wolke: better
(07:50 / Allied) Halp: thats ur opinion
(32:21 / All) Mudman: WE FORGOT KING
(32:23 / All) Mudman: gg

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Re: Halp@Useast

Postby Im_Halp » Fri Oct 27, 2017 10:55 pm

Spoiler!
(00:25 / Allied) Halp: -rolls
(00:30 / Allied) Wolke: -rolls
(00:31 / Allied) Halp: hm
(00:34 / Allied) Halp: i wanna bw
(01:28 / Allied) Wolke: -rolls
(01:39 / Allied) MindMachine: -rolls
(01:45 / Allied) MindMachine: lol
(01:47 / Allied) MindMachine: u have ygg
(01:51 / Allied) MindMachine: and u go warrior?
(02:05 / Allied) Halp: u got it
(02:08 / Allied) Wolke: this rly bad
(02:20 / Allied) Wolke: ygg is so much stronger
(02:25 / Allied) Halp: dw
(02:56 / Allied) Halp: i ddint see ea on green
(03:00 / Allied) Halp: only saw blaster
(05:03 / Allied) MindMachine: halp i really wanna understand why u dont wanna ygg
(05:22 / Allied) Wolke: same here
(05:27 / Allied) Wolke: 1 of the best unit
(05:33 / Allied) Wolke: and you build 1 of the wors
(06:25 / Allied) Wolke: why you not start ygg
(06:36 / Allied) Halp: bc i didnt want to
(06:40 / Allied) Halp: i thought green wud blaster
(06:41 / Allied) MindMachine: ok
(06:42 / Allied) Halp: and i idnt see ea
(06:44 / Allied) MindMachine: that makes sense
(06:44 / Allied) MindMachine: that makes sense
(06:52 / Allied) Wolke: ofc.
(06:58 / Allied) Halp: if u got something to say
(06:59 / Allied) MindMachine: even if i blaster
(07:00 / Allied) Halp: u can say it
(07:02 / Allied) Halp: otherwise
(07:04 / Allied) Halp: play ur lane
(07:21 / Allied) Wolke: you trial vouche
(07:27 / Allied) Halp: thats correct
(07:30 / Allied) Wolke: and ygg is clearly skeleton
(07:37 / Allied) Halp: ?
(07:43 / Allied) Wolke: better
(07:50 / Allied) Halp: thats ur opinion
(07:50 / Allied) Wolke: ace
(07:56 / Allied) Wolke: if he pass trial vouche
(07:59 / Allied) Wolke: i leave
(08:42 / Allied) Wolke: let´s full send
(08:52 / Allied) Wolke: skeleton should hold better then ygg
(08:54 / Allied) Halp: u wanna tk cus ididnt ygg
(08:55 / Allied) Halp: really
(08:58 / Allied) Wolke: he ez clear mid
(09:01 / Allied) Halp: grow up pls
(09:09 / Allied) Halp: !ignore wolk


Our king skill is stomp, w/ them straight save 7.
As far as recovering is concerned:

(16:19 / Allied) Halp: want me bank?
(16:29 / Allied) Ace_of_Spades: mby y
(17:06 / Allied) Ace_of_Spades: u can get some toks
(17:08 / Allied) Ace_of_Spades: for 15 <-- i was 2 tok for 15


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