JustWin @europe

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Re: JustWin @europe

Postby TheSonOfZeuS » Fri May 11, 2018 7:51 pm

Tom_hardy wrote:Hello @TheSonOfZeus,

Sorry it took so long, had to hand in my masterthesis two days ago, was quite the struggle.

Sadly I cannot see any of the replays you provided, some are from the old version, others have old versions of the map that I don’t have. I just checked random replays now, but that’s no problem.

First of all, there is quite the controversy about your case, I guess you noticed. We try to avoid any more drama in the league than we already have. That being said, for me it doesn’t matter that much what happened before, if your replays provide the skill needed, you should get your chance. So lets have a look at your last 3 games:

http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/view_replay.php?file=10757381.w3g

You start with late whisp due to afk, then build ea and 3 gnoll. I disagree with the gnoll placement, but I would suggest this being a matter of taste. I get you wanna keep the creeps as long as possible from your elite archer, but know that in general you wanna keep gnolls alive as long as possible. You realise early that they kingleak enough for you to push a 4th whisp on 1, good and quick thinking there.
You build standard until 3. Note that I really really dislike statements like: “They go 100% 3” and one level later: “They go 100% 4”. Still no send coming. It is not about being right or wrong. Even in lihl people do this and it is very annoying. You simply cannot KNOW what the enemys decide to do, even if it might seem obvious simple as that. If you anticipate a send, please phrase it accordingly.
You overbuild hard for 4, no send coming, so you overbuild for 5 too. They send, you hold and get kind of fat. You decide to full 7. Here you push 7/2 from 4/1 on 5 instantly which is majorly risky without a real holder and no skill scout. A free hold is definitely likely though and it worked out, so I don’t mind too much. In general 6 or 7/1 is more advised since furb herm can already hurt your team a lot.
For lvl 10 you stay 7/3, makes perfect sense. Your Archer positioning is very good. Your gnoll positioning suboptimal. Gnolls slow the bosses for a short time, so it is not useful to get all of them in front. Try to split it up. After ur 3 gnolls in front, you would get a lot additional slow by putting the rest in the back to make them come forward later. Also your last archer should have been 5 gnolls, they are completely worth it. Anyway, you are 1780 value, so you still hold.
After arena you phrase your thoughts about when they send very differently, I appreciate that.
You anticipate 14, build accordingly and save your team with it. Also your wood assessment of enemy team is very correct. You survive and win 17. To me that call is slightly risky. If they pushed to go 14 17 you could have died easily 17. 16 was gg very very likely, but no big deal.
Overall the game was decently played. Not awesome, but not bad either for sure.

https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=10757519

Ok this game was straight up really really bad played. You have skeletor alpha male and ranger.
You anticipate a 3 send and for some reason u go a mix of all three of these for the start. Just play skeletor, it’s a perfectly fine yolo/suicide unit, and exactly that was what your team needed, with 2 times ygg already. You leak hard 3 6(with 750 Value) 7 8 9 and are 7/3 at that point. You even decided to stay 7/2 for 8 even though u had the gold during 7, still leaked like 6 creeps. Then you decide to go full push and suicide during 9. The whole play just doesn’t make any sense. If you are desperate to hold 10, then full stay so you do better on 9. Lets break it down. What you should have done is full skeletor, 7/4 pre 7, then just suicide, since you already have a heal advantage. What you did is exactly what we try to avoid. No lumber, no hold, no use for the team. On top of that your positioning is suboptimal again. If you wanna yolo something like this, you build the melee behind or at least next to range units so you share some damage. You built the medium armor skeletors right in front.

This replay is a nono for me, but I will check one more..

https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=10757662

Kind of a weird game, I think you are just not that used to 3s but anyway. You mix raider rev for 1. Raider in front. Here I don’t mind it that much since rev is really squishy and has high dps, but in general its advised to get melee behind or at least next to ranged for yolo purposes as mentioned before. They go wars, you hold it. Then you add a necro for 3. I know you anticipate 5, but I don’t get that considering you get wyv for 4 and up wyv for 5. First of all, unupped necro is rarely worth its cost, the upgrades make it a lot bettr. Second you don’t wanna mix a major oneshotter like an upgraded wyv that targets low hp creeps with mass small damage sources. It leads to big overdamage. Anyway you stay 3 0 and only get 1 bo. So you hold ez. Your whole team kinda does. I still wouldn’t call the game badly played, the whole thing was a mess and nobody wanted to push properly.
This Game is kinda hard to judge, but not enough to make me forget about the second game for sure.

At this point I have to stop. Even without the controversy around you the checked replays are not enough to join LIHL yet. That being said, You do good assessments also and you have a decent read on the game for sure. Try not to tunnelvision overbuild into sends you think are coming 100%, check more of your teams needs. In my opinion you don’t miss a lot to join. I would suggest you to check a few replays or obs games and reapply soon.


Hello Tom, thank you very much for your feedback, in the first rep, I really did not correctly assess the situation, we really did not have very strong towers at 4, in the second rep I wanted to add aod to 5, but we needed a yolo, I had to go into push , this also killed my line, I desperately wanted to make the recover but I did not have enough gold, really a bad game. I provided very good repetitions, but unfortunately they are from the outdated version of the game, now I will try to play a few games for the skill, and I will provide them in the next day. Thanks for waiting.

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Re: JustWin @europe

Postby TheSonOfZeuS » Fri May 11, 2018 7:56 pm

Several times I tried to build gnolls from behind, there was a split. So I was afraid to build them from behind again.

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Re: JustWin @europe

Postby DJ.FM » Mon May 14, 2018 1:29 am

@tom_hardy big difference between drama and being toxic you will loose alot more players then gaining from someone like him, he is a bad misrepresentation for potential players coming into lihl.

Also in the last week or so i have watched his streams that he does via twitch were flames LIHL and lihl players in Russian etc.

Following from that i see pub 1200 players saying how can a person who flames LIHL regularly now be looking to get vouched just an overall bad look.

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Re: JustWin @europe

Postby TheSonOfZeuS » Mon May 14, 2018 6:36 am

DJ.FM wrote:@tom_hardy big difference between drama and being toxic you will loose alot more players then gaining from someone like him, he is a bad misrepresentation for potential players coming into lihl.

Also in the last week or so i have watched his streams that he does via twitch were flames LIHL and lihl players in Russian etc.

Following from that i see pub 1200 players saying how can a person who flames LIHL regularly now be looking to get vouched just an overall bad look.

you're just a liar, you prove it before you write such lies

on one of the streams I read a translation from this forum for my viewers, it was Tom's article, the answer on this forum, now frostkitty made me laugh at how you and your friend JustPush try to make sure that I can not join the league. Come somehow on the air and ask other viewers what I'm talking about, and then write on this forum about what is said in the broadcasts

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Re: JustWin @europe

Postby DJ.FM » Mon May 14, 2018 9:45 am

Not going to argue with you everyone is allowed there input here , i have no reason to lie. In fact i have been here since season one and never been banned or questioned for flaming or caused any drama here so if your questioning my integrity thats ok , i am probably one of the nicest people you can meet in lihl.

Your previous behavior and current behavior is a disguise

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Re: JustWin @europe

Postby iusedtolovemee » Mon May 14, 2018 3:01 pm

I don't mind if you get vouched . I just don't think ur a good add to lihl but please stop acting like i killed ur dog or something.


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