Replay Link: http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 573162.w3g
Game Name: Hellhalt td
Your Warcraft III Username: nesciojay
Violator's Warcraft III Username: ''''11 and also jonothenoob
Violated Rule(s): Refusing teamplay, build on enemy side and for jonothenoob flame and troll.
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): Entire game...
Any further thoughts: So the game started and after 5 rounds 2 of the enemy leave, so i ask if we can send all together on 7 with rage so we can instantly win game. Red says no up king which i dont understand but okay, he places buffs on my side but puts them in the most annoying place he can put them so i ask him to move them but he refused and plain up ignored me. Lvl 10 comes and we should send to win game there is no fun in playing 3 vs 1 but red suddenly only ups king to extend game, which is lame. At this point red suddenly thinks he can make tactics and says send 14, let me also add in that teal is by now at round 10 at -200 score with only 2 whisps for lumber so there is no way he can be involved in teamplay this is between me and red. It makes no sense, red first dont want to end game and to annoy me end game way later. Teal joins into the conversation and blames me for ''flaming??'' i think because red puts units on my side and trolls me. Then he says i understand ur annoyed but you're being a little kid about getting pissed for this trolling and gold stealing. So later in game he is minus -700 score and the only reason teal stays in game is to annoy the crap out of me which he just admits. Red still ignoring me solo playing sending alone on rounds, he says send 14 so i send 14 and he dont send he up presence instead at the last second. Only at the end he decides to not troll and ask a round to send on that we actually DO send on...
Hellhalt multiple trolls
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Re: Hellhalt multiple trolls
Actually 2 players of EAST team left after level 2 leak.
This game is so chaotic and confusing, its hard to begin.
Well its true that red player ```10 @useast.battle.net is pretty much solo upping Guardian up to level 10. But it is also true that You are solo sending level 10, since it is pretty much 2v1 game. Teal player jonothenoob @uswest.battle.net isn't talking up to this point, and since he is 3/0 he can't really contribute to anything.
About level 7 send:
There is no agreement whatsoever. U decided to send, he decided to up, teal cant do anything.
Sidenote:
Also green player [)ick13utt420 @uswest.battle.net had almost a line of veterans and 2 hydras for level7, he wouldn't leak no matter how hard your send were. But obviously you couldn't know it.
About level 10:
Again. Contrary to what you are saying red never agreed to send on lvl10. Red is upping king, you are sending, teal can't contribute.
Side note:
You leaked 5 bosses. Teal leaked 4 bosses. Red held. Judging by the outcome (which could be foreseen by experienced player, witch red kind of is: ELO (rank): 1550.42 (47) Games: 230 W/L: 147/83 (63.91%)) upping king pre10 instead of sending was a good idea.
About sharing auras pre10:
I can't find anything wrong about this overseer placement. For some reason you were annoyed by it and it was you who started throwing words. Also it seemed for me that red player's English isn't the best that's why he speaks very little and simple words (he is Korean). He probably didn't understand your request to move the overseer.
Further conversation about what happened until Arena, for me says pretty much the truth:
It goes on, and on, and on... Words are thrown. I'd like to point out that player jonothenoob @uswest.battle.net is mostly very calm and logical in his words.
I can't even justify recommending a warn or ban for red player ```10 for not selling his Overseer placed at your side after you told him to:
because of it not being done to intentionally steal kills, but only to give you advantage as teamates are supposed to do.(Rule: "Do not build close to your teammate without consent to steal kills.")
Later on it is You building on red player side without consent.
About level14:
That's the only thing about strategy that I can find. You didn't respond since both you and teal player were busy talking.
After seeing this, he can't be sure you have an agreement on when to send. Being way more experienced he knows, teal wont hold level14 and you won't hold it either even without send, so he makes situational judgement call to up presence instead of sending which I can justify.
About flaming/raging/trolling:
Where he agrees that he's staying in game just to annoy you?
Also I took my time to pull out (one of the biggest chats ingame I have ever seen) all that can be considered flaming:
I let mods decide.
Conclusions:
I recommend denying this banrequest due to lack of evidence of rules being broken by red player ```10 @useast.battle.net or by teal player jonothenoob @uswest.battle.net.
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(04:50 / All) JonoTHEnoob: Dragonlord_EU has left the game voluntarily.
(04:50 / QUIT) Dragonlord_EU: Left
(04:58 / All) JonoTHEnoob: Atticus00 has left the game voluntarily.
(04:58 / QUIT) Atticus00: LeftThis game is so chaotic and confusing, its hard to begin.
Well its true that red player ```10 @useast.battle.net is pretty much solo upping Guardian up to level 10. But it is also true that You are solo sending level 10, since it is pretty much 2v1 game. Teal player jonothenoob @uswest.battle.net isn't talking up to this point, and since he is 3/0 he can't really contribute to anything.
About level 7 send:
Spoiler!
There is no agreement whatsoever. U decided to send, he decided to up, teal cant do anything.
Sidenote:
Also green player [)ick13utt420 @uswest.battle.net had almost a line of veterans and 2 hydras for level7, he wouldn't leak no matter how hard your send were. But obviously you couldn't know it.
About level 10:
Spoiler!
Again. Contrary to what you are saying red never agreed to send on lvl10. Red is upping king, you are sending, teal can't contribute.
Side note:
You leaked 5 bosses. Teal leaked 4 bosses. Red held. Judging by the outcome (which could be foreseen by experienced player, witch red kind of is: ELO (rank): 1550.42 (47) Games: 230 W/L: 147/83 (63.91%)) upping king pre10 instead of sending was a good idea.
About sharing auras pre10:
Spoiler!
I can't find anything wrong about this overseer placement. For some reason you were annoyed by it and it was you who started throwing words. Also it seemed for me that red player's English isn't the best that's why he speaks very little and simple words (he is Korean). He probably didn't understand your request to move the overseer.
Further conversation about what happened until Arena, for me says pretty much the truth:
Spoiler!
It goes on, and on, and on... Words are thrown. I'd like to point out that player jonothenoob @uswest.battle.net is mostly very calm and logical in his words.
I can't even justify recommending a warn or ban for red player ```10 for not selling his Overseer placed at your side after you told him to:
Spoiler!
because of it not being done to intentionally steal kills, but only to give you advantage as teamates are supposed to do.(Rule: "Do not build close to your teammate without consent to steal kills.")
Later on it is You building on red player side without consent.
About level14:
Spoiler!
That's the only thing about strategy that I can find. You didn't respond since both you and teal player were busy talking.
Spoiler!
After seeing this, he can't be sure you have an agreement on when to send. Being way more experienced he knows, teal wont hold level14 and you won't hold it either even without send, so he makes situational judgement call to up presence instead of sending which I can justify.
About flaming/raging/trolling:
NescioJay wrote: So later in game he is minus -700 score and the only reason teal stays in game is to annoy the crap out of me which he just admits.
Spoiler!
Where he agrees that he's staying in game just to annoy you?
Also I took my time to pull out (one of the biggest chats ingame I have ever seen) all that can be considered flaming:
Spoiler!
I let mods decide.
Conclusions:
I recommend denying this banrequest due to lack of evidence of rules being broken by red player ```10 @useast.battle.net or by teal player jonothenoob @uswest.battle.net.
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Re: Hellhalt multiple trolls
NescioJay wrote:thinu wrote:Actually 2 players of EAST team left after level 2 leak.Code: Select all
(04:50 / All) JonoTHEnoob: Dragonlord_EU has left the game voluntarily.
(04:50 / QUIT) Dragonlord_EU: Left
(04:58 / All) JonoTHEnoob: Atticus00 has left the game voluntarily.
(04:58 / QUIT) Atticus00: Left
This game is so chaotic and confusing, its hard to begin.
Well its true that red player ```10 @useast.battle.net is pretty much solo upping Guardian up to level 10. But it is also true that You are solo sending level 10, since it is pretty much 2v1 game. Teal player jonothenoob @uswest.battle.net isn't talking up to this point, and since he is 3/0 he can't really contribute to anything.
About level 7 send:Spoiler!
There is no agreement whatsoever. U decided to send, he decided to up, teal cant do anything.
Sidenote:
Also green player [)ick13utt420 @uswest.battle.net had almost a line of veterans and 2 hydras for level7, he wouldn't leak no matter how hard your send were. But obviously you couldn't know it.
About level 10:Spoiler!
Again. Contrary to what you are saying red never agreed to send on lvl10. Red is upping king, you are sending, teal can't contribute.
Side note:
You leaked 5 bosses. Teal leaked 4 bosses. Red held. Judging by the outcome (which could be foreseen by experienced player, witch red kind of is: ELO (rank): 1550.42 (47) Games: 230 W/L: 147/83 (63.91%)) upping king pre10 instead of sending was a good idea.
About sharing auras pre10:Spoiler!
I can't find anything wrong about this overseer placement. For some reason you were annoyed by it and it was you who started throwing words. Also it seemed for me that red player's English isn't the best that's why he speaks very little and simple words (he is Korean). He probably didn't understand your request to move the overseer.
Further conversation about what happened until Arena, for me says pretty much the truth:Spoiler!
It goes on, and on, and on... Words are thrown. I'd like to point out that player jonothenoob @uswest.battle.net is mostly very calm and logical in his words.
I can't even justify recommending a warn or ban for red player ```10 for not selling his Overseer placed at your side after you told him to:Spoiler!
because of it not being done to intentionally steal kills, but only to give you advantage as teamates are supposed to do.(Rule: "Do not build close to your teammate without consent to steal kills.")
Later on it is You building on red player side without consent.
About level14:Spoiler!
That's the only thing about strategy that I can find. You didn't respond since both you and teal player were busy talking.Spoiler!
After seeing this, he can't be sure you have an agreement on when to send. Being way more experienced he knows, teal wont hold level14 and you won't hold it either even without send, so he makes situational judgement call to up presence instead of sending which I can justify.
About flaming/raging/trolling:NescioJay wrote: So later in game he is minus -700 score and the only reason teal stays in game is to annoy the crap out of me which he just admits.Spoiler!
Where he agrees that he's staying in game just to annoy you?
Also I took my time to pull out (one of the biggest chats ingame I have ever seen) all that can be considered flaming:Spoiler!
I let mods decide.
Conclusions:
I recommend denying this banrequest due to lack of evidence of rules being broken by red player ```10 @useast.battle.net or by teal player jonothenoob @uswest.battle.net.
Teal agreed hes trolling at this point: (47:27 / Allied) JonoTHEnoob: worst performance of my life, but most entertaining game ever
If you are playing 3vs1 and u sent and rage at 7 u win game instantly. 100%.
I got over 1k hours in legion td on several bots from bk to de so judging by elo is nothing, besides its a TD game you dont ''have'' to play for win and no one did until ELO was added on ENT.
Also the placement was annoying i pointed several times where he could put it but he refused and he understands, u can see in his other games he talks english just ''fine'' but plain up uses elo as a point of ''power'', i played world of warcraft in top 50 professional beat the world champion of 2016 a month after he became world champion, trained in kyokushin karate in real life by a world champion and kick 2.10m high but that doesn't mean that i can just rule over a team or start a rebel fight force just because im higher exp.
I wanted to build where he placed it and just ignoring me to talk on tactics and just say ''no'' is annoying, if u check my other games im a team player.
I build on his side because of his attitude. And he only said ''omg'' and then later i placed to my side.
Also notice how the game ended at 50 minutes rather than 10 with 3vs1 because of these two trolls. THERE IS NO FUN IN 3vs1 :/
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