DOTA - alot of players

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DOTA - alot of players

Postby Fangorn » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:41 am

Your Warcraft III username:Fangorn

Violator's Warcraft III username:
lechtren europe.battle.net - not voting gameruiner
kos(chris europe.battle.net - gameruiner/"ghosting" with his mate
tanteteckla uswest.battle.net - leaver(autoban)
knightmtuseast.battle.net - not voting against gameruiner
magiccookie europe.battle.net - planting a mate on the opposing team to feed
akadsuky europe.battle.net - not voting against gameruiner
haoernakthakhnx europe.battle.net -not voting against gameruiner
getkillthen europe.battle.net - not voting against gameruiner

See "rule player violated" for elaboration.



Game name or map name:
https://entgaming.net/openstats/game/1544728/

Rule player violated:
Players kos(chris and magiccookie obviously two mates. kos(chris picks tiny and tosses me into his mate on scourge, magiccookie. Also some obvious incidents later on the game that confirms their connection.

Time of incidents (Note in-game timer or replay timer):
3:00 - I tried to votekick the gamethrower tiny, for tossing me into enemy.
5:50 - Same as above
7:00 - kos(chris initiates a votekick against me for reason. His mate magiccookie types !yes this time, although he didn't type yes when I tried to get rid of tiny. Also getkill voted.
8:30 - I initiate a votekick against kos(chris. This time magiccookie thought the votekick was against me again, so he immediately typed !yes.
11:30 - Another failed votekick against kos(chris
15:50 - kos(chris doesnt kill magiccookie when he had the chance. A stun would kill him, but he wants to keep the stats of his mates.
27:40 - tosses me on magiccookie. At this time, it's obvious that this lowbob has planted another lowbob, gaining cheap kills. It wasn't a coincidense that tiny chose to toss me on magiccookie.
28:30 - Note: quote from kos(chris: "I am the top 10 player, and I enjoyed this match". It is clearly magiccookie that writes this, as he seems to be top 10(what a shame).
33:40 - AT THIS TIME THERE IS NO LONGER ANY DOUBT. I go to farm scourge woods. Bara tp's to their tier 3 toptower, goes straight for me woods, and kills me.



Any further thoughts:
I did some quick searches on the alias-checker. Then I noticed there is another ban request that concerns the same players.

I noticed that kos(chris is milkyw4y_ta0, which has been playing some games with magiccookie. There is no doubt that magiccookie uses his plant to win games. What a lowbob, wow.

Please permban both these players
Thanks

Edit #1: Be so kind and delete that game for obvious reasons. Thank you
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Re: DOTA - alot of players

Postby EdgeOfChaos » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:54 am

0:30 - Tiny follows SF mid on the same lane as Magiccookie.
1:00 - Attempts to toss SF to Magiccookie begin.
7:30 - Bara finds SF near rune spot. Tiny sits by while he dies
14:00 - Kills SF with toss while repeatedly trolling in all chat.
15:15 - Tosses Lich to enemy team
And there's more after that. He is no doubt intentionally throwing the game.
The event at 33:40 leaves no doubt that tiny is a plant for magiccookie.

I will, however, give magiccookie a chance to defend himself for the sake of fairness before I make this ban, because if made, it will be very long and probably involve a stat-wipe.
@Magiccookie what do you have to say to defend yourself? I know you're online and reading this right now.

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Re: DOTA - alot of players

Postby digger » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:56 am

Magic cookie and kos)chris plays game together often, and i watched replay things were pretty obvious how it went. The other players however not votekicking in case like that game should not be bannable in my opinion.

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Re: DOTA - alot of players

Postby EdgeOfChaos » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:57 am

Why not? They did not vote to kick tiny when he was clearly throwing. That's pretty bad.

Magiccookie has 2 hours to defend himself by this post or I make a decision, and then he can make an appeal if he thinks its invalid.

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Re: DOTA - alot of players

Postby Magiccookie » Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:01 am

https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=1543971 here he is trying to ruin one of my games

after seeing that he want to ruin the game i always typed !yes at every kick

and yes he told me (whipser) that sf is in our woods and like u said he was ruining the game so i tusted him and went checking
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Re: DOTA - alot of players

Postby iCoNNecT » Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:05 am

I actually did ban magiccookie on west for glitch which still should be banned.
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=10198&p=50258#p50258
If read chat it says he would dodge and play on Europe. These are two separate IPs though. I want you to look at this @edgeofchaos

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Re: DOTA - alot of players

Postby Fangorn » Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:07 am

That was a poorly thought-through plan.
"Let's mess up in one game, so that if we get caught, we refer to that one game". It may sound like a good plan, but everything is all too obvious.

No one whispered you anything. You are you anyway contradicting yourself. You say that "he was ruining the game so I trusted him". Then why didn't you vote to kick him. He was ruining the game from the start, which was obvious

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Re: DOTA - alot of players

Postby EdgeOfChaos » Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:10 am

@iCoNNecT Magiccookie@west is an impersonator; i am familiar with his IP providor and him. He's a well known ban dodger, but he is not the somewhat infamous magiccookie from the forum. He's trying to frame the real magiccookie

@Magiccookie It's dangerous to take information from someone on enemy team. That's considered ghosting if you take advantage of the info. And also you played vs him many more times than with him. You MAY not have set him up to feed you elo, but that's certainly what he's doing.

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Re: DOTA - alot of players

Postby Magiccookie » Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:11 am

iCoNNecT wrote:I actually did ban magiccookie on west for glitch which still should be banned.
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=10198&p=50258#p50258
If read chat it says he would dodge and play on Europe. These are two separate IPs though. I want you to look at this @edgeofchaos


magiccookie at west is not my acc , i have 1 acc on west and thats magiccooki cuz magiccookie is already used

Fangorn wrote:That was a poorly thought-through plan.
"Let's mess up in one game, so that if we get caught, we refer to that one game". It may sound like a good plan, but everything is all too obvious.

No one whispered you anything. You are you anyway contradicting yourself. You say that "he was ruining the game so I trusted him". Then why didn't you vote to kick him. He was ruining the game from the start, which was obvious


so why would i want to ruin my own game and if u can read i typed !yes every time you tryed 2 kick him
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Re: DOTA - alot of players

Postby Fangorn » Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:17 am

I'm not going to argue with a lowbob ghoster, sa it would be pointless. The point is, magiccookie didn't type !yes when he had the chance. He only typed !yes once, and that was probably because he thought the votekick was against Fangorn.
He hadn't typed !yes until his mate kos(chris initiated a votekick against me. Then he typed !yes, but not the three previous kicks against me.

On a serious note though, is discussion really needed?

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Re: DOTA - alot of players

Postby EdgeOfChaos » Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:18 am

https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=1544728 - Kos feeds Magiccookie
https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=1544518 - Kos goes on Magiccookie's team and plays legit
https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=1543971 - Kos goes on Magiccookie's team and trolls
https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=1543768 - Kos feeds Magiccookie
https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=1543606 - Kos feeds Magiccookie
https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=1543321 - Kos feeds Magiccookie
https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=1538822 - Kos feeds Magiccookie
https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=1538617 - Kos feeds Magiccookie
https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=1538426 - Kos feeds Magiccookie
https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=1538237 - Kos feeds Magiccookie
https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=1537958 - Kos feeds Magiccookie

You've gotta admit magiccookie, this looks pretty bad.

@Fangorn discussion is absolutley needed for a topic like this. This topic is to ban (3 months to 1 year) and remove the stats of one of the top 10. This is definitely a "high profile" case, and discussion will help all of us, including me, reach the truth. I am very hesitant to ban when it is not proven beyond reasonable doubt, so I want to discuss this until all the evidence is laid down.

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Re: DOTA - alot of players

Postby Magiccookie » Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:20 am

Fangorn wrote:I'm not going to argue with a lowbob ghoster, sa it would be pointless. The point is, magiccookie didn't type !yes when he had the chance. He only typed !yes once, and that was probably because he thought the votekick was against Fangorn.
He hadn't typed !yes until his mate kos(chris initiated a votekick against me. Then he typed !yes, but not the three previous kicks against me.

On a serious note though, is discussion really needed?


i wont say it again about my !yes , but u know u can kick players even if 1 person is not typing !yes means i am the only one who did not !yes right

EDIT: so i could just make a new acc and join every game a top 10 player plays and feed him so every one of them gets his stats removed?
but w/e do what u like i dont care anymore
Last edited by Magiccookie on Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:23 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: DOTA - alot of players

Postby Fangorn » Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:23 am

It seems pretty proven to me, but I'll leave you to it then

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Re: DOTA - alot of players

Postby EdgeOfChaos » Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:26 am

Interesting chatlogs:
(00:31 / All) MilkyW4Y_TA0: hey naruto i heard about u
(00:40 / All) MilkyW4Y_TA0: u totally lownigga in ent

(01:51 / All) MilkyW4Y_TA0: U FRENCH U FAG
(01:52 / All) MagicCookie: u are french and u know it
(01:52 / All) MilkyW4Y_TA0: !

(04:53 / All) MilkyW4Y_TA0: y
(04:56 / All) MilkyW4Y_TA0: naruto mh
(05:04 / All) MagicCookie: reported
(05:05 / All) MagicCookie: ty
(05:25 / All) MilkyW4Y_TA0: naruto u like hacking?
(05:45 / All) MilkyW4Y_TA0: hey fag i talk 2 u

(10:43 / Allied) MilkyW4Y_TA0: !votekick naruto
(10:59 / All) MagicCookie: !yes
(10:59 / All) MagicCookie: Player [MagicCookie] voted to kick player [naruto-fr]. 4 more votes are needed to pass.
They appear to be friends. They team up on Naturo (HMMM WHY NARUTO? I wonder..) in this game, and act like they don't know each other in the other games.

@Fangorn this is actually very difficult to prove he's doing it intentionally, because he just claims that he didn't set up games with him and that he was always annoyed by him (like he did claim). Very very hard to prove intent online about something like this.

However these chatlogs make me suspect that he is indeed guilty.
@Magiccookie comment on the chatlogs?

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Re: DOTA - alot of players

Postby Magiccookie » Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:30 am

haha u can ask every dota player who played with naruto no one likes him or thinks he is skilled (atleast the one i saw and talked 2) and that i hate him is no secret at all
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