[Lod] Starchaser [uswest]

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[Lod] Starchaser [uswest]

Postby AllNo0bsButMe » Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:46 pm

Replay Link: https://entgaming.net/openstats/lod/game/9493417/
Game Name: [ENT] LoD -mds6bod2fn #62
Your Warcraft III Username: DreadPirateRob
Violator's Warcraft III Username: Starchaser (at least him, some of the rest didnt vote as well)
Violated Rule(s): Blue was afk from the start, still afk first we kindly asked to kick him and wed play instead of draw ...
they didnt kick him!
Blue was 1:14:1 (the one kill he just last hitted) in the end, we asked twice to kick him again, as he was obviously feeding and was the main
target of pink (starchaser) all game long.
Any further thoughts: It was basicly 4 vs 6 all game long, if we woulda known they refuse to kick the feeder, we prob woulda drawn 2.
Blue is awful with chosen skills as well, but with random skills he was nothing but food.
Pls ban at least pink, who didnt vote once and took greatly advantage by feeding of blue !!!

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Re: [Lod] Starchaser [uswest]

Postby Unitil » Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:50 pm

Below is my opinion for the claims above, and what I've found by using DRM and watching the replay
AFK:
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granules@USWest confirmed afk from <0:00 - 9:00> this includes entire champion/ability select with extended time. However, game started officially @ <7:35>

Potential Game Ruin:
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Does not appear that he was too far behind level wise once he started playing, however, after the first death to Starchaser@USWest he steadily started falling behind. It would seem that he kept going to lane, and when he did try to farm the jungle he failed to use observer wards which would have helped prevent a great many deaths.

At the end of the game he was one shot kill by anyone on the opposing team.

I believe there were things he could have accomplished to avoid feeding the entire game, such as purchasing observer wards along with the few sentry wards he ended up purchasing.

Though he did feed the entire game, it's not as though he was going out of his way to intentionally feed the enemy team. He unfortunately had zero armor built (very little items in general), and was one shot by anyone on the enemy team.


Vote-kick : Failure to vote
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Multiple votes early on in the game were established to kick the afk from the game, however, there were votes missing to pass the vote-kick.

First Vote-kick attempt : Was still afk during this

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7:10    [Allies] Starchaser: !Votekick granules
7:10    [All] granules: A votekick against player [granules] has been started by player [Starchaser]. 5 votes are needed within 60 seconds to pass.
7:10    [All] granules: Type !yes to vote.
7:10    [All] granules: ** Note: !votekick should only be used to kick players breaking a rule. You should not votekick players new to the game!
7:13    [Allies] DreadPirateRob: !yes
7:13    [All] granules: Player [DreadPirateRob] voted to kick player [granules]. 4 more votes are needed to pass.
7:15    [Allies] lUX: 역시..
(Korean Translation: Also..)
7:17    [Allies] ayhanlimon: !yes
7:17    [All] granules: Player [ayhanlimon] voted to kick player [granules]. 3 more votes are needed to pass.
7:19    [Allies] elia: !yes
7:19    [All] granules: Player [elia] voted to kick player [granules]. 2 more votes are needed to pass.
7:21    [All] DreadPirateRob: they wanna play ... so lets play
7:22    [Allies] Kwaza_return: 킥해여?
(Korean Translation: Do you kick?)
7:29    [Allies] zozoz: !yes
7:29    [All] granules: Player [zozoz] voted to kick player [granules]. 1 more votes are needed to pass.
7:49    [All] DreadPirateRob: good for u
8:01    [Allies] Starchaser: 재내 우스궁이 훨 빨리 오니까
(Korean Translation: Come on in)
8:02    [All] kikino: we have the same heroes
8:03    [Allies] Starchaser: 죽으면 안됨
(Korean Translation: Not to die)
8:08    [Allies] mimic: 럭스님 전판 복수하시겟네
(Korean Translation: Lux's full version revenge)
8:10    [All] granules: A votekick against player [granules] has expired.

Vote-kick failure due to the following players: Kwaza@USWest_return, mimic@USEast, kikino@Eurobattle, lUX@USWest

2nd Vote-kick attempt: Established prior to granules return from AFK

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8:23    [Allies] DreadPirateRob: !votekick gran
8:23    [All] granules: A votekick against player [granules] has been started by player [DreadPirateRob]. 7 votes are needed within 60 seconds to pass.
8:23    [All] granules: Type !yes to vote.
8:23    [All] granules: ** Note: !votekick should only be used to kick players breaking a rule. You should not votekick players new to the game!
8:27    [All] kikino: +1
8:30    [Allies] mimic: !yes
8:30    [All] granules: Player [mimic] voted to kick player [granules]. 6 more votes are needed to pass.
8:40    [Allies] kikino: !yes
8:40    [All] granules: Player [kikino] voted to kick player [granules]. 5 more votes are needed to pass.
8:51    [Allies] Kwaza_return: rune plz. have a greed
9:14    [All] DreadPirateRob: u could kick him though
9:14    [Allies] mimic: 무조건 전 몸사리면서
(Korean translation: Unconditionally,)
9:16    [Allies] mimic: 클께요
(Korean translation: It's big.)
9:17    [Allies] kikino: !yes
9:21    [All] kikino: i did
9:23    [All] granules: A votekick against player [granules] has expired.

Vote-kick failure due to the following players: elia@Asia, ayhanlimon@Eurobattle, zozoz@Europe, Starchaser@USWest, Kwaza_return@USWest, lUX@USWest

Third Vote-kick attempt : At this point granules was 0-5 - Not intentionally feeding from what was observed

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25:29    [Allies] DreadPirateRob: !votekick gran
25:29    [All] granules: A votekick against player [granules] has been started by player [DreadPirateRob]. 7 votes are needed within 60 seconds to pass.
25:29    [All] granules: Type !yes to vote.
25:29    [All] granules: ** Note: !votekick should only be used to kick players breaking a rule. You should not votekick players new to the game!
25:34    [Allies] ayhanlimon: !yes
25:34    [All] granules: Player [ayhanlimon] voted to kick player [granules]. 6 more votes are needed to pass.
25:34    kikino [6-5] was been killed by elia [5-4]. Assist: ayhanlimon [5-4]/zozoz [3-3]
25:44    [Allies] granules: -sp
25:47    [All] DreadPirateRob: ure still not kicking him ?
26:06    [Allies] kikino: !yes
26:06    [All] granules: Player [kikino] voted to kick player [granules]. 5 more votes are needed to pass.
26:29    [All] granules: A votekick against player [granules] has expired.

Vote-kick failure due to the following players: elia@Asia, zozoz@Europe, Starchaser@USWest, Kwaza_return@USWest, mimic@USEast, lUX@USWest

Concluding Thoughts:
granules@USWest
Being afk for 9 minutes at the beginning of the game during champion/ability select can affect the end game in general. Though you may have fallen behind, ensuring your jungle is warded with observer/sentry wards is huge when you don't want to not die.

Kwaza_return@USWest, mimic@USEast, kikino@Eurobattle, lUX@USWest
(mimic@USEast and kikino@Eurobattle did vote on the 2nd vote)
Failure to vote a potential Game Ruiner when presented with clear evidence at the start of the game. The individual was AFK with no hero selection which can be seen on the scoreboard.

I would recommend more people due to the other votes not passing, however, the first vote should have been the one that went through. The other votes either had a lot of people from the previous vote missing the second vote, or the person returned and they were potentially allowing them to play.

If i had to note what rules were broken during this game:

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granules@USWest
• Do not ruin the game on purpose: Do not go away from keyboard for an excessive amount of time, especially without telling other players beforehand, and/or refuse to play the game in an attempt to ruin it. Neither are you allowed to grief by resetting the afk timer.

Kwaza_return@USWest, mimic@USEast, kikino@Eurobattle, lUX@USWest
(Up to the staff member, but if ban is implemented for failure to votekick maybe consider a lenience for mimic/kikino for voting on the second vote-kick)
• If a votekick is initiated to kick a visible game ruiner, all players are obligated to !yes.

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Re: [Lod] Starchaser [uswest]

Postby Albi » Sat Jul 01, 2017 8:37 am

It seems like a misunderstanding to me, considering scourge team was full korean some of them might not know english therefore i will deny this part of the request.
Granules banned 3 days


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