[LTD] tdnoob @ europe.battle.net

[Viserion]

Replay Link: http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 002922.w3g
Game Name: [ent] legion td mega 1v1 #84
Your Warcraft III Username: dureifen-
Violator's Warcraft III Username: tdnoob
Violated Rule(s): Several: he insulted me + he didnt AS in 30 which cost me win + He AS in 31 which is also Ban. I also AS in 31 AFTER he did because he did steal me that win allready with not As in 30 at that point + he insulted me and i was mad. Ofc i wouldnt As in 31 if he didnt but after he steal my win allready with breaking rules 2 or 3 times i also AS but he did first..
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): 00:23 55:24 59:29
Any further thoughts: Well.. he insulted me several time.. Called me faggot. I even didnt flame him at all. Very bad manners. He also violated rules 2 times so i really think he should get some time to think about. Thank You.

[Karils]

Review:

"Anti-Stuck cannot be used unless creeps are actually stuck. In that case, anti-stuck must be used."

AS used by tdnoob at the following times/locations:

55:27 <tdnoob> 0x11: Point order: ancestralspirit (X: -5626.67, Y: 4513.51, flags: 0x0040)
58:51 <tdnoob> 0x11: Point order: ancestralspirit (X: -3533.94, Y: -2419.50, flags: 0x0040)
58:58 <tdnoob> 0x11: Point order: ancestralspirit (X: -3386.20, Y: -2364.80, flags: 0x0040)
59:04 <tdnoob> 0x11: Point order: ancestralspirit (X: -3269.77, Y: -2325.77, flags: 0x0040)

AS use dby DuReifen- at the following times/locations:

58:53 <DuReifen-> 0x11: Point order: ancestralspirit (X: 3532.90, Y: -2208.55, flags: 0x0040)
58:59 <DuReifen-> 0x11: Point order: ancestralspirit (X: 3456.58, Y: -2226.25, flags: 0x0040)
59:06 <DuReifen-> 0x11: Point order: ancestralspirit (X: 3399.69, Y: -2390.28, flags: 0x0040)
59:12 <DuReifen-> 0x11: Point order: ancestralspirit (X: 3570.88, Y: -2317.42, flags: 0x0040)

On wave 30, tdnoob didn't AS the boss which lived until around the time when the king finished killing the sends that were with it, something like a 30 second gap. I have a hard time believing that he didn't realize it was there considering he used antistuck as soon as DuReifen- said something about it:

(55:24 / All) DuReifen-: as?

I'm unsure of how to judge the 31 AS considering both used AS on 31 the same amount of times. He is however, guilty of AS abuse on 30 in my opinion.

[Viserion]

Yes, like i said. I used AS in 31 but as you can see i used it a few seconds after he did.. I think the Player which used As in 31 FIRST only should get banned because its frustrating playing more than an hour and than lose to Antistuck in 31. I also allready won this game regular in 30 so i think everyone can imagina that i tried to save MY win in 31 with AS after he did.. I would not did AS in 31 if he didnt first and I think for real only the player who violated this rule first should get banned because like i said playing an hour and maybe lose because someone abuse AS isnt fun at all.. I lost in 31 but if he dont abuse in 30 we never get to 31 and its my win..

[Viserion]

But in my Opinion the best Solution for the 31 AS Problem would be just not to allow players to send Bloodorc or Ghoul for 31. Its always unfair even if nobody uses Antistuck because its luck if u split bigger or not so big and i think it shouldnt be on luck who wins over an hour level 31 game so why not just say its not allowed to send bo or ghoul and the player with bigger value better units and better use of lumber wins it which is most fair way to end an level 31 game..

[HodoR_]

I do believe that this 31+ AS issue needs to be addressed, it's very frustrating indeed. I'd suggest considerably reducing ghouls & BO movement speed beyond 31, as I mentioned in a previous post. I agree with @viserion that playing over a hour and ending the game on a roll of a dice isn't really fair.

[point]

im completely agreed with viserion and hodor

[Karils]

While I can't make changes to the rules myself, I did make a suggestion about it and would like your input.

As far as this request goes, I will be issuing a 3 day ban on tdnoob for AS abuse based on my findings above.

Do keep in mind if he had reported you, you could potentially have been punished as well because him breaking the rules does NOT give you the right to break them as well.

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