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Re: Check this

Postby Drahque » Fri Aug 09, 2013 6:59 pm

Iznogood wrote:[System]: 5. . .
[System]: 4. . .
[System]: 3. . .
[System]: 2. . .
[System]: 1. . .
[System]: *** player [Drahque] has left the game (has left the game voluntarily)

guess that is dc penalty right there


This can also happen if a player leaves while 3 seconds left, for example, if he had started the game right at the moment I left. But anyways, I was NEVER inside the game, and this can also be seen by the replay (since I'm quite sure, that my building were never in the map).

I had no intention to dodge this game, except rejoining as a way to !abort the start, since we hadn't spoken about who should solo that game. So I was just trying to help my team out. But instead, the game ended up starting, and when I tried to join the game, I found out it was already started.


bit wrote:System messages in the end of log just shows leaving sequence, looks like he pressed alt+f4 on loading screen


For a matter of fact, I did NOT use alt+f4 at any point. I left the game WHILE being INSIDE the lobby. And when I tried to join the game, it didn't let me, beacuse the game didn't exhist. And we all know, that when you try to join a game that doesn't exhist with Gproxy on, it disconnects you.

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Re: Check this

Postby GoatsBeGone » Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:01 pm

supersexyy wrote:Link to that game goat?


Im not good at all this game thingy and how to add replays and shit. Thats why I added names, also Ba_fail was in this game, me, him and drah I think. but anyways, Intentionelly game ruining cause he dont get the optimal start, leaving the game after.. Gotta give a warning or something or dc penalty?
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Re: Check this

Postby Drahque » Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:07 pm

GoatsBeGone wrote:
supersexyy wrote:Link to that game goat?


Im not good at all this game thingy and how to add replays and shit. Thats why I added names, also Ba_fail was in this game, me, him and drah I think. but anyways, Intentionelly game ruining cause he dont get the optimal start, leaving the game after.. Gotta give a warning or something or dc penalty?


I did not intentionally ruin any games, I tried to ensure the EXACT opposite, that Arishok wouldn't ruin another game by trolling on solo lane. Those left the game BEFORE in order to abort the start, but it didn't work, as it usually does. You can give me a DC penalty and whatever you think and iightfyre already warned me about this yesterday, after I had spoken with him, and those I've come to the understanding it's as much my fault as Arishoks in this scenario.

Again, I'm sorry for the inconvenience it might have caused, but it was indeed not intentional. I just can't help, that I was quite confident it was a general rule, that a host should make sure everyone is ready before the game is started (in the lobby). At least, if you check my last 40-50 games, then in every single lobby, we made sure that everyone was ready to start. But, in this case, I wasn't ready, beacuse only ENEMY team had sorted their solo lane, and NOT us. Which I felt was really unfair, and on top of that, frightened that Arishok would end up ruining another game with his troll Land Mines and selling towers lvl 2 and 3 ... But this I've gotten an explanation for, in the topic I made yesterday. So I'd now understand his actions. Except the reason, why he didn't heal the king.

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Re: Check this

Postby dweiler » Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:11 pm

The other game is this: http://atl.entgaming.net/replay/view_re ... 828187.w3g

Sorry Drahque, but a lot of things you are writing are not true. How were you in a 'hurry' in round 1? You were there all the time, looking at your actions and typing on round 1.

(07:12 / All) Drahque: and when I get back on I have no wisp and only 40 lumber

You made a wisp at the first second.

(07:30 / All) Drahque: i was afk

You weren't afk for 1 second.
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Re: Check this

Postby Drahque » Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:17 pm

MickeyTheMousie wrote:How were you in a 'hurry' in round 1? You were there all the time, looking at your actions and typing on round 1..


I had just tabbed into the game, and the first thing I always do, is make a whisp. I have no clue how long into the game it was, but when I tabbed in, it seemed to already have been started. Which is also the reason, that I thought I had lost maybe the first 5, 10 or 20 seconds compared to enemies, in making a wisp.

Anyways, the thing I mean by being in a hurry lvl 1, was that I had spend a lot time WRITING, and those didn't focus on what to build. I really tried to understand how I had come only have 40 lumber, and we all know, when you're under a lot of stress, time seems to go faster, and those I since I had so many things to do before level 1 started, I felt as if I were in a hurry.

I should of course had come to the conclusion, that I had upped the king while writing (just as if you can send units, if you've clicked on the barrack while writing), it's also possible to upgrade the king. But I've never tried this before, and those it wasn't the first thing that came up in my mind. If I had found out this level 1, and paused the game, It might have been more understandable by the enemies. So my confusion just confused the enemy team, those caused a bit of chaos.

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Re: Check this

Postby Iznogood » Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:19 pm

But this has happend that last 3 days.. It's just getting too much..

Date: 07/08/2013:
https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=1828187

(00:13 / Allied) Drahque: lol i left when 2 seconds left
(00:15 / Allied) BA_Fail: -hpgmcb
(00:16 / Allied) Drahque: and it stilled started
(00:35 / Allied) BA_Fail: drahque fail
(00:40 / Allied) Drahque: sry missclick
(01:20 / Allied) Drahque: bullshit units lol
(01:21 / Allied) BA_Fail: we cant warrior 1
(01:37 / Allied) Drahque: FUCK
(01:39 / Allied) Drahque: i got no lumber
(01:40 / Allied) Drahque: wtf
(01:43 / Allied) Drahque: ???
(01:50 / Allied) Drahque: wheres my lumber
(01:51 / Allied) Drahque: !!!!!!!11
(01:55 / All) Drahque: GAME BUGGED
(01:56 / Allied) BA_Fail: u upped king
(01:58 / All) Drahque: I got no lumber
(02:04 / All) Drahque: i left when 2 seconds left
(02:07 / All) Drahque: now no lumber
(02:21 / All) BA_Fail: u guys ok with rm or no?
(02:24 / All) RealFurbolg: play without
(02:28 / All) RealFurbolg: ur lumber
(02:32 / All) BA_Fail: k
(02:33 / All) Drahque: ...
(02:36 / All) Drahque: i said wait
(02:38 / All) Drahque: and u started
(02:45 / All) Drahque: I even tried to leave with 3 seconds left
(02:48 / All) Achillesgr: you speak too much
(02:48 / All) Drahque: it still didnt let me
(03:14 / All) Drahque: i said dont start
(03:16 / All) Drahque: and u started
(03:19 / All) Drahque: i even tried to leave
(03:24 / All) Iznogood: ? :o
(03:29 / All) Drahque: in the room
(03:30 / All) Iznogood: so u knew we started
(03:32 / All) Drahque: before u start a game
(03:46 / All) Drahque: ye he typed !start when I said NO NO NO
(03:49 / All) Drahque: !draw
(04:04 / Allied) Drahque: this game is ruined for me
(04:31 / All) Achillesgr: post me
(04:44 / All) Drahque: it would be ur 3rd offense in a week
(05:28 / All) Drahque: problem is i wasnt ready
(05:45 / All) Drahque: and i said this already at start
(05:51 / All) Drahque: if u dont draw this ..

I only qouted some of the chat - but it really deserves to be read in full form!

Ok - so this chat clearly shows drah is typing before ba types modes:
(00:13 / Allied) Drahque: lol i left when 2 seconds left
(00:15 / Allied) BA_Fail: -hpgmcb

It clearly shows how Drah admits he tried to leave:
(00:13 / Allied) Drahque: lol i left when 2 seconds left
(03:19 / All) Drahque: i even tried to leave

Why leave when you can pause? makes no sense unless you fuck up your lumber and have crap units.

(02:21 / All) BA_Fail: u guys ok with rm or no?
(03:46 / All) Drahque: ye he typed !start when I said NO NO NO
(03:49 / All) Drahque: !draw
(04:04 / Allied) Drahque: this game is ruined for me
(04:31 / All) Achillesgr: post me
(04:44 / All) Drahque: it would be ur 3rd offense in a week
(05:28 / All) Drahque: problem is i wasnt ready
(05:45 / All) Drahque: and i said this already at start
(05:51 / All) Drahque: if u dont draw this ..

It clearly shows how Drah is trying to blackmail achilles to FF because achilles already had a warning
It clearly shows Drah is lying - (03:46 / All) Drahque: ye he typed !start when I said NO NO NO

This thread is all about yesterday

and 3rd game from today:
http://atl.entgaming.net/replay/view_re ... 838541.w3g
(00:13 / All) Drahque: shit no gproxy
(00:18 / All) Drahque: no gproxy
(00:18 / All) Drahque: can we rmk?
(00:18 / All) Iznogood: no lol
(00:22 / All) Drahque: we didnt see units yet ..
(01:27 / All) Drahque: why not rmk? I paused before prophet was picked btw.
(01:33 / Allied) Drahque: we cant no
(01:41 / All) Drahque: no just asking
(01:52 / All) Iznogood: u always ask for some shit
(11:30 / All) BA_Fail: Drahque has lost the connection (timed out) but is using GProxy++ and may reconnect.
(11:30 / All) Drahque: Please wait for me to reconnect (161 seconds remain).
(11:30 / All) BA_Fail: rofl drahque u do got gprox
(11:30 / All) Iznogood: wow
(11:30 / All) lihldiabloduck: wtf drahque
(11:30 / All) lihldiabloduck: u liar
(11:30 / All) Iznogood: droop hax
(11:30 / All) Iznogood: yea he is lying

I'm sorry Drah but you like your private talk with iight about spirit in the league.. for me the spirit shouldn't be lying. You're full of lies..

3 days of lying and crap talking to ruining our games is just too much

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Re: Check this

Postby Drahque » Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:40 pm

GAME 1:
(00:13 / Allied) Drahque: lol i left when 2 seconds left
(00:15 / Allied) BA_Fail: -hpgmcb

Mode was picked AFTER, I wrote, and those i made my team away of it, before I had seen my units. Meanwhile typing, the king was upped. I wrote all this withing the first 2-3 seconds of the game, and those it couldn't be an try to draw a game, because of my units, but because the game was started when I wasn't ready to start. I had written it several times in the lobby, Achillesgr still started the game. I'll repeat, that to iightfyre yesterday, I didn't know that it wasn't a rule, to ready check before a game started. And since, I've drawed several games on level 1, when people were AFK / not ready, for example is a guy said: "BRB toilet quick", in the lobby, and the game was started, we usually draw the game. In this case, I wasn't ready, and I had said it several times in the lobby, and those felt I was treaten differently then others, because hosts usually wait if a person says so. And the reason I tried to leave, was to abort the start, beacuse I thought that Achillesgr hadn't seen me write, that I wasn't ready.


GAME 2:
(00:13 / All) Drahque: shit no gproxy
(00:15 / Allied) BA_Fail: -hpgmcb
(00:18 / All) Drahque: no gproxy
(00:18 / All) Iznogood: ...?
(00:18 / All) Drahque: can we rmk?
(00:18 / All) lihldiabloduck: no
(00:18 / All) Iznogood: no lol
(00:22 / All) Drahque: we didnt see units yet ..

This game, again BEFORE the mode was made, I did as fast as possible tell the enemy team my concern. The reason I thought I had no gproxy, is because the end of my previous game (https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=1838334), Pyc did drop out and me and BA had to wait 180 second for him, after I had waited 180 seconds, I had to wait another 180 seconds for BA_fail. So I shit down the game, and restarted WC3. I wasn't sure if I had started WC3 with gproxy or not on, and since I was in a hurry to get in the channel (to not miss a game, and those have to wait an hour in channel), I wasn't sure or at least didn't memorize, that I had gproxy.

Again this game, I said it BEFORE the mode was picked, and even PAUSED the game while still being a 'question mark' (no builder picked), so that it wouldn't have an effect on the game. Also, if you see my teams units, I had no INTENTION to try to draw the game, beacuse of units. We had YGG and Archers.

Then around level 6, (after enemy team had leaked over 40 units to king on level 2+5, so me and BA_fail were fed), the server suddenly started lagging as fuck. Lorddus first disconnected, and while waiting on him to reconnect for several minutes, I saw pretty much every persons name on the lagging countdown list, and it was really just a matter of who dropped first. If you look, Iznogood aslo dropped out after 180 seconds, just like me and same happened to Lorddus. Also Duck were lagging (at least on my screen).

A way to proof this, is that a minute later, when we started a 3v3 game, the bot never hosted it (BOTS WERE DOWN), and we even tried to rehost another 3v3, in which it also didn't work. So the bots were CLEARLY down. I also have proof of day and time this happened, if required and as seen of following topic I made:
- viewtopic.php?f=72&t=13790

And again, Iznogood, I'm very sorry for what have happened and I'd understand your concern / that it seems suspicious, but I have really not had any deeper intentions on my actions, except acted under stress / concerns. In first game saying I wasn't ready and in second game, I was unsure if gproxy was on or not, and when I paused the game, it was immediately unpaused, so I didn't even have time to tab out and check.

Anyways, these problems will not repeat, and after speaking to iightfyre yesterday, I've gotten an understanding, that hosts doesn't need to ready check, and also that nobody has to draw, even if a person isn't ready. Which is also the reason I respected you're decision to continue (the game today).

If you feel I need a DC penalty because the bot crashed, then feel free to ask for it, but really, I don't see why I should be punished for being the first to DC, in a game, where everyone lagged and the spectator lagged out as the first (lorddus). And also, in which game, we had overpowered units (Archers+Ygg) + we got fed with leaks on level 2+5. So really, I had a good game going on, and really had no intention to flee that game. Which I've never done. I extremely rarely DC, even on the shittiest games I stay till the end, for example in a game where I was left 1v3 on level 23, since shr00m DC'ed lvl 21 and BA_Fail left on lvl 22, I still stayed till the very end.
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Re: Check this

Postby Arishok » Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:40 pm

Drahque, reason why you left? You was in game lobby and you didn't say nothing about afk or readiness. Game can be paused at the beginning if you're not ready and you could do it... So why DCed?

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Re: Check this

Postby Drahque » Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:50 pm

Arishok wrote:Drahque, reason why you left? You was in game lobby and you didn't say nothing about afk or readiness. Game can be paused at the beginning if you're not ready and you could do it... So why DCed?


I already explained this, and it's not true that I didn't notice you about my readyness. I have both the chat that bit showed from the lobby chat:
bit wrote:[Drahque]: please
[Drahque]: me solo
[Achillesgr]: !swap 1 3
[Drahque]: put me solod
[Drahque]: dont start yet
[Drahque]: arishok is owner
[Iznogood]: most elo decides
[Drahque]: me solo
[Arishok]: !start


Also, I have a screenshot backing up, that I did indeed mention that I wasn't ready:
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Re: Check this

Postby Iznogood » Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:58 pm

Drahque wrote:GAME 1:
(00:13 / Allied) Drahque: lol i left when 2 seconds left
(00:15 / Allied) BA_Fail: -hpgmcb

Mode was picked AFTER, I wrote


So you're saying the bot is lying about the times and not you?

Drahque wrote:GAME 2:
(00:13 / All) Drahque: shit no gproxy

The reason I thought I had no gproxy,
Again this game, I said it BEFORE the mode was picked, and even PAUSED the game while still being a 'question mark'


Drah I really don't care.. You were lying - and I see no reason to rmk a game because you didn't enable your proxy.

Drahque wrote:Anyways, these problems will not repeat, and after speaking to iightfyre yesterday, I've gotten an understanding, that hosts doesn't need to ready check, and also that nobody has to draw, even if a person isn't ready. Which is also the reason I respected you're decision to continue (the game today).
If you feel I need a DC penalty because the bot crashed, then feel free to ask for it


I don't feel you need a dc penalty Drah.. I feel you need a few days break from LIHL to get your stress/panic actions under control

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Re: Check this

Postby Iznogood » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:03 pm

[Drahque]: please
[Drahque]: me solo
[Achillesgr]: !swap 1 3
[Drahque]: put me solod
[Drahque]: dont start yet
[Drahque]: arishok is owner
[Iznogood]: most elo decides
[Drahque]: me solo
[Arishok]: !start

Drahque wrote:Also, I have a screenshot backing up, that I did indeed mention that I wasn't ready:


Drah.. we all understood it as you wouldn't start before we had 30min fighting about you wanted solo lane. And it was.. you weren't afk.
People are here to play not spending their time on giving you attention.
Aris started the game.. he was !owner and your team captain (most elo) - It's a lihl rule that the captain decides 100% who will solo!
You need to respect that - but you left
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Re: Check this

Postby Drahque » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:05 pm

Srsly man, it's not fair to be accused of something I didn't intentionally do ! PLEEASEEE explain to me, JUST ONE GOOD REASON, I would lie about gproxy !?!?

I did freaking say it BEFORE the mode was picked, if you look closely, I said it on 00:13, and BA_fail picked mode on 00:15 ... I even PAUSED the game. So how can you say, that I'm lying about this?


I do really like to see some consistent proof, that I'm lying, and also I would like to see a DECENT REASON, on why I would even consider lying, in a game, where the mode wasn't picked .. I didn't see units yet, so what difference would it make to rehost it?

This is the second time I get unvouched or punished for missunderstandings or circumstancial evidence. There is really NO proof, that with the BA_fail game, that I had ACCEPTED at any point, to play hybrid mode. And in these games, there is NO proof, that I had intentionally left or lied, in order to get a game remade. I had NO intentions to lie about it in any of the games, since I didn't KNOW my units yet .. I even paused BEFORE anyone knew their units. So please explain to me, WHY do I get punished? Especially for something that can't be proven!
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Re: Check this

Postby Drahque » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:09 pm

Iznogood wrote:People are here to play not spending their time on giving you attention.

Aris started the game.. he was !owner and your team captain - It's a lihl rule that the captain decides 100% who will solo! You need to respect that - but you left


First of all, I have never wanted attention, but I really have come to the understanding, that it was GENERAL that a team captain made sure everyone was ready before a game is started. If you look at my last XXX games, then in every single of them (except Arishok), the owner CHECKS / ASKS kindly if everyone is ready. If a person says wait, then the host wait, so in my HEAD, I don't see why this is different to me? Why shouldn't a host wait, when it's Drahque instead of Beep? Asking for a moment?

And also, WHERE THE HELL, should I have known from, that the captain decides solo lane? If you check the lobby chat from my last 100+ games, there is NOONE of them in which, anyone have EVER, mentioned that the lihl captain decides solo lane. Except from yesterday, when it was the FIRST time, I have heard anyone mentioning it (You). So please, explain to me, where on these forums that it says, that the CAPTAIN decides who is solo lane?

I mean, Arishok even asked opponent team who solos? But why shouldn't he ask our team? I really feel treated like crap ... in this case. At least compared to other people.

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Re: Check this

Postby supersexyy » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:11 pm

Link to Drahque 72 hour unvouch: viewtopic.php?f=85&t=13795

(40:10 / All) Drahque: epic send
(40:11 / All) Drahque: achilles
(40:12 / All) Drahque: nice call
(40:13 / Allied) Achillesgr: to my computer
(40:15 / Allied) BA_Fail: they didnt want to draw at start
(40:19 / All) Drahque: u cant even beat a 3400 value
(40:22 / All) Drahque: ur 3v2
(40:22 / Allied) RealFurbolg: !ignore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(40:24 / All) Drahque: and cant win yet
(40:25 / All) Drahque: lolz


(58:39 / Allied) Drahque: NORMAL ... sucks vs. heavy
(58:41 / Allied) Drahque: and
(58:46 / Allied) Madridista: it dont matter
(58:47 / Allied) Drahque: normal TAKES 120 % from sea giants etc.
(58:50 / Allied) Madridista: we have so much lumber
(58:51 / Allied) Drahque: BLASTERS RAPE 27
(58:53 / Allied) Drahque: DONT U NDERSTAND
(58:57 / Allied) BA_Fail: get ready
(58:57 / Allied) Drahque: BLASTERS DEAL 120 % damageo n 27
(58:57 / Allied) Achillesgr: ok
(58:59 / Allied) Drahque: ITS EASY MATH
(59:01 / Allied) Drahque: i send 28
(59:02 / Allied) Drahque: end of story


This is just a small part of the reason why you have been unvouched after being warned multiple times, along with the points posted in the unvouch thread.

I have 2 suggestions for you.

1. Stay away from the forums.
2.
(05:00 / All) Achillesgr: shut up
(05:02 / All) Achillesgr: and play
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Re: Check this

Postby Iznogood » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:14 pm

Drahque wrote:I do really like to see some consistent proof


I think i have posted enough proofs.
I won't go deeper with your reasons behind it on the forum - but I did ask you in game earlier


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