Unvouch request for looseyourself@useast.battle.net

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Unvouch request for looseyourself@useast.battle.net

Postby KiwiKiller[QQ] » Tue Apr 11, 2017 5:13 pm

As said Tin on looseyouself's vouch request,
iiStyLes wrote:Anyone can behave themselves for 2 week trial and then become a piece of shit afterwards and we all know how hard it is to get someone unvouched after they get accepted.

So, many people, including me, are experiencing issues with this guy, mainly since he is accepted in the league.

1st game : https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=9274576
looseyourself is playing aqua, which is the easiest unit to play, yet he finds the way to TK. He stayed 7/4 for level 9, even though he had nothing really to build, that we were fine for level 10 and that we asked him to push, he even leaked level 9 with 7/4. Then, he starts flaming people and acting superior.
Spoiler!
(16:52 / Allied) SLSGuennter: push
(16:55 / Allied) SLSGuennter: wtf
(17:00 / Allied) SLSGuennter: pushhhhhhhhhhhh
(17:11 / Allied) SLSGuennter: OMG
(17:14 / Allied) SLSGuennter: FUCKING PUSH
(17:35 / Allied) SLSGuennter: wow
(17:37 / Allied) SLSGuennter: this guy
(17:40 / Allied) KiwiLeKiller: and can't he fucking communicate ?
(17:54 / Allied) manesagra: -rolls
(18:35 / Allied) LooseYourself: -king
(18:41 / Allied) LooseYourself: z 3 3
(18:43 / Allied) LooseYourself: for 10
(18:45 / Allied) KiwiLeKiller: rofl
(18:56 / Allied) manesagra: would send more
(19:04 / Allied) KiwiLeKiller: ofc send more
(19:15 / Allied) LooseYourself: y lets blow heals
(19:17 / Allied) LooseYourself: good idea
(19:23 / Allied) LooseYourself: lets do it !
(19:24 / Allied) SLSGuennter: well
(19:25 / Allied) manesagra: just till inc send
(19:35 / Allied) SLSGuennter: if u stay 7/4 with aqua, u either hold, or its pure tk
(19:39 / Allied) SLSGuennter: so it seems u hold
(19:43 / Allied) SLSGuennter: then we dont need hard king
(19:46 / Allied) SLSGuennter: so its fine
(19:53 / Allied) LooseYourself: i leak man
(19:58 / Allied) LooseYourself: i just damages bosses
(19:59 / Allied) KiwiLeKiller: yes, good job
(20:09 / Allied) LooseYourself: dont talk kiwi pls
(20:13 / Allied) KiwiLeKiller: lol
(20:13 / Allied) LooseYourself: you pure 100% tk
(20:17 / Allied) KiwiLeKiller: hahaha
(21:54 / Allied) SLSGuennter: i rly dont get why this guy didnt just push after 8
(21:54 / Allied) manesagra: +they go 13
(21:59 / Allied) SLSGuennter: pure useless tk
(22:03 / Allied) KiwiLeKiller: ya
(22:12 / Allied) LooseYourself: Y
(22:17 / Allied) LooseYourself: saving heal = tk
(22:17 / Allied) LooseYourself: np
(22:25 / Allied) manesagra: safve
(22:29 / Allied) KiwiLeKiller: you think you saved heal ?
(22:32 / Allied) manesagra: they will 13 us ghuys
(22:39 / Allied) LooseYourself: y talk to me kiwi pls
(22:39 / Allied) SLSGuennter: and now he up att, when (if any) we need reg
(22:44 / Allied) LooseYourself: i wanna learn from you
(22:54 / Allied) KiwiLeKiller: you never saved a heal
(22:57 / Allied) LooseYourself: y
(23:00 / Allied) LooseYourself: teach me pls
(23:04 / Allied) LooseYourself: i wanna learn

Then, after he didn't kill anything on 10 and that he acts like he is pro and that he saved a heal, he late pushes and go 7/7. We were sending 13, which he called pure tk when we already started to send and he had very low lumber.
Spoiler!
(25:15 / Allied) SLSGuennter: we go 13 ofc
(25:15 / Allied) manesagra: get anti 13
(25:38 / Allied) SLSGuennter: even if its hard with 300wood hodor
(25:46 / Allied) LooseYourself: o
(25:47 / Allied) LooseYourself: k
(27:08 / Allied) SLSGuennter: full pls
(27:17 / Allied) manesagra: they aint going now lol
(27:36 / Allied) manesagra: we send ?
(27:42 / Allied) SLSGuennter: yeah
(27:44 / Allied) SLSGuennter: they die
(27:52 / Allied) manesagra: not sure about that
(27:56 / Allied) LooseYourself: its pure tk
(27:57 / Allied) LooseYourself: np
(28:10 / Allied) KiwiLeKiller: good communication purp
(28:11 / Allied) KiwiLeKiller: rly
(28:20 / Allied) manesagra: well hodor if u pushed on time u would have like 2.5 k by now
(28:21 / Allied) LooseYourself: -king
(28:25 / Allied) LooseYourself: y
(28:28 / Allied) LooseYourself: my fault
(28:29 / Allied) LooseYourself: sure
(28:31 / Allied) LooseYourself: thing
(28:36 / Allied) SLSGuennter: i told u 10 times to push
(28:40 / Allied) SLSGuennter: u dont answer and just build :D
(28:46 / Allied) LooseYourself: ofc
(28:59 / Allied) LooseYourself: why would i listen to a noob who doesnt even check rolls
(29:02 / Allied) LooseYourself: tell me pls


2nd game : http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 244607.w3g
On this game he TK leaks on level 3 with LoD and meatwagon and tells others what to do when, in fact, he knows nothing.
Spoiler!
(04:35 / Allied) AvadaKedavra: hodor need add?
(04:37 / Allied) looseyourself: you ob
(04:40 / Allied) AvadaKedavra: u need more val godor?
(04:41 / Allied) looseyourself: no .
(04:43 / Allied) looseyourself: ?
(04:47 / Allied) AvadaKedavra: it holds like that= :S
(04:49 / Allied) looseyourself: i think i hold easy
(05:16 / Allied) looseyourself: ok
(05:18 / Allied) AvadaKedavra: theres ur answer :)
(05:19 / Allied) looseyourself: not easy
(05:20 / Allied) looseyourself: lol
(05:22 / Allied) Jason-: ^^
(06:29 / Allied) looseyourself: btx
(06:31 / Allied) looseyourself: btw
(06:37 / Allied) looseyourself: jj held ez
(06:47 / Allied) KiwiLeKiller: ?
(06:54 / Allied) looseyourself: idk man im drunk lol

Then, he tells me to control king, asks me if he actually can control it even though he says he's drunk and that he plays very poorly, I say no, I don't trust him, but he doesn't care and take it. It becomes a 20 game, he has wolves and LoD and he rr them. Even Avada told him to stop playing LIHL:
Spoiler!
(36:51 / Allied) AvadaKedavra: mb stay out of lihl when u drunk :)

But he didn't, and signed for the next game, which is game #3.

3rd game : http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 244771.w3g
Game starts and he calls Hate2Lose a son of a bitch and a jew, ofc in french, so he can't understand :
Spoiler!
(00:08 / All) looseyourself: le vert
(00:15 / All) looseyourself: c le fdp
(00:21 / All) looseyourself: la vie
(00:52 / All) looseyourself: c un juif oblig

For the rest of this game, I'll let you mods review, there is too much to list.

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Re: Unvouch request for looseyourself@useast.battle.net

Postby Mind » Tue Apr 11, 2017 7:10 pm

i was against vouching hodor in the first place, but i dont see anything he did wrong until now and i dont see it here either.
everybody plays bad or chooses the wrong options from time to time (artmas yesterday stayed 1/0 till level 7 in order to hold, which he didnt, we lost 4 heals, but i dont see a report :P) and tbh, u guys flamed hodor more than he did flame you imo. i didnt know that ma günni can be so stressed :(
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Re: Unvouch request for looseyourself@useast.battle.net

Postby SLSGuennter » Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:53 am

Ofc i get stressed, if asking him to push, and he doesnt even bother to answer, but just keeps upgrading king ^^
And then says 1 stupid thing after an other ... just reminded me of my exgirlfriend, so i got instastressed. ;)

Worst was, when after all this, he suddenly named my 13-call "(27:56 / Allied) LooseYourself: its pure tk", when they are just going to leak 77units onto king with 0 heals ... WTF

But hey, i was one of the lowskilled, high self-confident players myself some seasons ago ... so i cant blame him for the same thing i did in the past :D
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Re: Unvouch request for looseyourself@useast.battle.net

Postby dweiler » Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:43 pm

I looked at this request to see that 'other side' of Looseyourself.

@1st game , I would also make a point out of not pushing if Guennter would start yelling like a maniac to me out of nowhere to push ^^

@2nd game, he didn't tell you to king. He asked 'kiwi you king?' to tell you he wanted to king. He said he was op king drunk and asked you to trust him. So I'm not sure why you got mad on level 7.

Did you see he said he rred LOD+wolv by accident? Probably not because you ignored him and were busy telling others how TK he is.

@game3 I can't see it, version 1.27. This bad language is just sad behavior, swearing with that kind of words in our league is just a shame on him as a person really.

Game 2+3 Looseyourself is apparently drunk according to his own comments, so I would follow Avada's quote and advice Looseyourself to avoid LIHL if he's drunk. If you can't control yourself and have worse teamwork and gonna do sad insults in French, then protect yourself. Or learn to behave when you're drunk.
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Re: Unvouch request for looseyourself@useast.battle.net

Postby Diablo_ » Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:45 pm

:P About game 3. Is there any story behind this?
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Re: Unvouch request for looseyourself@useast.battle.net

Postby Escaflowne » Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:51 pm

I agree with all that Mick said in his post. But this is also true, and why I always thought he was TK and such a fuckin troll on 1200:

MickeyTheMousie wrote:Game 2+3 Looseyourself is apparently drunk according to his own comments, so I would follow Avada's quote and advice Looseyourself to avoid LIHL if he's drunk. If you can't control yourself and have worse teamwork and gonna do sad insults in French, then protect yourself. Or learn to behave when you're drunk.


@TimeFoRparty don't play when you're drunk since you often do behave like a fuckin moron when you do. Behave like you did during your trial please, you know better man.
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Re: Unvouch request for looseyourself@useast.battle.net

Postby KiwiKiller[QQ] » Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:49 pm

MickeyTheMousie wrote:@1st game , I would also make a point out of not pushing if Guennter would start yelling like a maniac to me out of nowhere to push ^^

I'm sorry, but I really don't get this. Guennter asked nicely to push, looseyourself didn't give a shit, didn't answer and kept upping king, then Guennter started to spamm him to push. And if he can't listen, try to discuss or explain his intentions to other more experienced players, he obviously doesn't belong to LIHL.

He is stubborn and overconfident, which leads to him not listening and going against team's best interests.

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Re: Unvouch request for looseyourself@useast.battle.net

Postby Diablo_ » Wed Apr 12, 2017 7:58 pm

1. game
KiwiKiller[QQ] wrote:
MickeyTheMousie wrote:@1st game , I would also make a point out of not pushing if Guennter would start yelling like a maniac to me out of nowhere to push ^^

I'm sorry, but I really don't get this. Guennter asked nicely to push, looseyourself didn't give a shit, didn't answer and kept upping king, then Guennter started to spamm him to push. And if he can't listen, try to discuss or explain his intentions to other more experienced players, he obviously doesn't belong to LIHL.


Guennter didn't ask him to push until he started "raging" nor did anyone else. So there was nothing to "give a shit about", nothing to answer and nothing to discuss/explain his intentions. All I see is Guennter suddenly raging. Calling him out for "flaming and acting superior" after you (mainly Guennter) treated him like crap is silly.

It is also a misconception thinking that new players have to listen to everything the "older" players are saying/suggesting.
If he doesn't want to push he doesn't have to. If this results in too bad plays for LIHL he can be unvouched for that (not necessarily saying it was bad in this game).


2. game
Sure lod+meat wagon was a bad call. Other than that I see no problem in this game. Again you think you have the "right" to tell who controls the king, yet you don't. LIHL is a team game and ultimately it is up to the players how they handle such situations. Sure if someone causes troubles too often it can be looked into but here you both acted stubborn and either of you could give up on insiting to control the king.

3. game
Google translate does a bad job in translating it, so idk.

@TimeFoRparty
Avoid playing LIHL when being drunk and refrain from flaming (be it french or any other language).

Processing, no actions taken. Be more open minded to new players.

PS: I suggest you rewatch the replay / read the chat log before you report something. There's a lot of misleading/wrong information from you, Kiwi. I would expect something better from a mod.
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Re: Unvouch request for looseyourself@useast.battle.net

Postby SLSGuennter » Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:24 pm

I see this as kiwi ... but if anybody feels like i flamed him without asking nicely before and not getting any response, sry for dat.
Ofc new players dont HAVE TO listen, but (like ALL players) they should at least response.

Anyway, get over this, play along :D Hot blood can take all of us from time to time.
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