2nd try report donki

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2nd try report donki

Postby KiwiLeKiller » Thu Aug 24, 2017 12:41 am

I do not want this report to be handled by ace_of_spades.
@mickeythemousie @n1ll3

https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=9699817

Lobby chat :
Spoiler!
[System]: [DON_KILLUMINATI@useast.battle.net] has played 102 LIHL games here (ELO: 900.01). W/L: 48/54.
[System]: Spoof check accepted for [DON_KILLUMINATI] on server [useast.battle.net].
[DON_KILLUMINATI]: bb halp
[DON_KILLUMINATI]: cya later
[Halp]: nn
[DON_KILLUMINATI]: !open 12
[System]: *** player [Halp] has left the game (was kicked when opening a slot)
[DON_KILLUMINATI]: !votebalance
[System]: The balance vote has passed. The game will be autobalanced or shuffled when the countdown starts (unless some players who voted leave).
[KiwiLeKiller]: dude
[DON_KILLUMINATI]: !start
[System]: Balancing slots completed.
[System]: Team 1's combined rating is [4093.98].
[System]: Team 2's combined rating is [4025.74].
[System]: Sentinel/West 1408.16 852.15 859.65 974.02 Avg: 1023.50
[System]: Scourge/East 1146.07 979.42 1000.24 900.01 Avg: 1006.43
[System]: ELO change: 14.24 / 15.76
[System]: 5. . .
[System]: 4. . .
[System]: 3. . .
[System]: 2. . .
[System]: 1. . .
[System]: *** player [KiwiLeKiller] has left the game (has left the game voluntarily)
[System]: Countdown aborted!
[DON_KILLUMINATI]: stfu
[yolo.style]: lol
[System]: *** player [Halp] has joined the game
[System]: [Halp@useast.battle.net] hasn't played any games of the specified type here.
[System]: Spoof check accepted for [Halp] on server [useast.battle.net].
[DON_KILLUMINATI]: !close 11 12
[System]: *** player [Halp] has left the game (was kicked when closing a slot)
[System]: *** player [KiwiLeKiller] has joined the game
[System]: Spoof check accepted for [KiwiLeKiller] on server [useast.battle.net].
[System]: [KiwiLeKiller@useast.battle.net] has played 42 LIHL games here (ELO: 979.42). W/L: 20/22.
[yolo.style]: xD
[KiwiLeKiller]: u can't kick him
[DON_KILLUMINATI]: !start
[System]: Players not yet pinged 3 times: KiwiLeKiller
[KiwiLeKiller]: ok
[DON_KILLUMINATI]: !start
[System]: Balancing slots completed.
[System]: Team 1's combined rating is [4093.98].
[System]: Team 2's combined rating is [4025.74].
[System]: Sentinel/West 1408.16 852.15 859.65 974.02 Avg: 1023.50
[System]: Scourge/East 1146.07 979.42 1000.24 900.01 Avg: 1006.43
[System]: ELO change: 14.24 / 15.76
[System]: 5. . .
[System]: 4. . .
[System]: 3. . .
[System]: 2. . .
[System]: 1. . .


As an ex moderator, he knows the rules quite well. See this case per example: viewtopic.php?f=85&t=80002

Here is the rule he broke with total knowledge of it :
One veto is enough to reject a player from observing a game, however, the observer spot may not be denied to moderators or players who were not yet vouched before.


I do not want this report to be handled by ace_of_spades. @mickeythemousie @n1ll3

Do I even need further explanations ?
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Re: 2nd try report donki

Postby HazarDous » Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:12 am

Rules are subject to some degree of interpretation based on a case-by-case analysis. Actual rule doesn't take in consideration one's attitude, unfortunately. Will likely be edited, soon.

Diablo_ wrote:2) I agree, if a Mod flames/bitches about a player, he should lose his "kick protection" as it would otherwise be an abuse of his status.
https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=9699817

Anyway, as Diablo said on the linked complaint, one's status shouldn't be abused. It goes without saying that a mod's protection goes beyond a simple "random" player, though. With regards to Halp, while he has not flamed donki directly in this game, there is an undeniable past history between the two. I'm not saying Don's behaviour was any good either. Point is, Halp has proved to be a drama queen, often flaming over the top, raging, etc. Not only is his behaviour not acceptable in a league, but I would also have banned him from ENT altogether if the chats I have seen were to be reported.

It doesn't really matter that he has not flamed in this particular game since a) he doesn't qualify for a vouch candidate, and b) his sole presence in game can irritate players. It is also my opinion that hiding behind such a rule would qualify for an abuse of his status. For that reason, I agree with Ace's judgement. viewtopic.php?f=72&p=452976#p452976

tl;dr; Don doesn't deserve a ban for kicking Halp from lobby so long as he acts in such a despicable way.


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